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Dirty Bird 09-06-2012 07:25 AM

3 days till kickoff...

chiefzilla1501 09-06-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8882763)
But what defines a good QB? Instead of trying to find a guy that will throw for 3 million yards, we need to fine the formula for what it takes to win. If we do that, we are onto something. There have been plenty of QBs who were Capable of winning Superbowls that didn't for various reasons.

A QB who has ability to scan the entire field, go through his progressions, and find a receiver even if he isn't the primary read. Cassel doesn't do that. He locks onto his primary guy then looks to his safety net.

A QB with the pocket presence to smell pressure and know where to slide in the pocket. Tom Brady is masterful at this. When he sense pressure, he doesn't scramble. He slides to a new spot. Cassel looked horrible behind the same offensive line that Brady and Orton got tremendous protection behind.

A QB with accuracy and touch. Eli Manning throws with precision, as with the Manningham catch. Aaron Rodgers, Brees, etc... are so precise the ball is put on exactly the right shoulder based on the WR's position. Cassel almost ALWAYS throws the ball to a receiver that is open by at least 5 yards.

A QB with anticipation to throw the ball before the receiver flies open.

A QB who is enough of a deep threat. Despite teams cheating up and putting 8 in a box, Cassel has one of the worst deep pass % completion in the league.

A QB who can read the defense and react to the blitz. Defenses constantly had more blitzers than blockers, and Cassel never picked it up. And Cassel NEVER finds a hot route.

A QB who can lead a team from behind. It's been 3 years now. Cassel has allowed blowouts to happen because instead of shooting out with the other team, he wastes the first 4 possessions when the other team gets an early lead. And in 3 years, how many 2 minute comebacks has he engineered?

Sorry, but we shouldn't congratulate a QB who can thrash bad defenses and relies on a "is my primary receiver wide open, or can I check down." My standard has always been, could a very average QB do the same things as Cassel. And I'd say "yes, and probably much better."

Chiefnj2 09-06-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8882481)
Flacco has 20 wins against teams with winning records for his career, including playoff wins.

Cassel has 5.

Would you like to know more?

Defense didn't have anything to do with those wins.

Flacco has 6 fourth quarter comebacks in his career, Cassel has 5. Not a big difference.

donkhater 09-09-2012 03:36 PM

Bump.

Remember this? It was entirely predictable.

OctoberFart 09-10-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 8875190)
Well they would be 7.5 favorites at home. Lines have been consistent at -1 to -1.5. This is the easiest bet of week 1.

I cashed that MOFO in. Can't wait to collect next time I go to vegas. Don't say I didn't try and help you guys make some cash. That was like taking free handouts from CA government.

Dayze 09-10-2012 09:29 AM

I was close to my score prediction.
let me know if you guys need the lotto numbers for tonight.

ToxSocks 09-10-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by donkhater (Post 8894916)
Bump.

Remember this? It was entirely predictable.

Entirely.

We had been talking about it for weeks leading up to it. Most of us knew it was going to happen.

We knew it was going to happen, we know why it happened, therefore we should also know that yesterday's came doesn't change our prediction of this being another 8-8 to 10-6 Ball Club.

It's going to be rough early. The team will pick it up week 6+

Black Bob 09-10-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8882848)
A QB who has ability to scan the entire field, go through his progressions, and find a receiver even if he isn't the primary read. Cassel doesn't do that. He locks onto his primary guy then looks to his safety net.

A QB with the pocket presence to smell pressure and know where to slide in the pocket. Tom Brady is masterful at this. When he sense pressure, he doesn't scramble. He slides to a new spot. Cassel looked horrible behind the same offensive line that Brady and Orton got tremendous protection behind.

A QB with accuracy and touch. Eli Manning throws with precision, as with the Manningham catch. Aaron Rodgers, Brees, etc... are so precise the ball is put on exactly the right shoulder based on the WR's position. Cassel almost ALWAYS throws the ball to a receiver that is open by at least 5 yards.

A QB with anticipation to throw the ball before the receiver flies open.

A QB who is enough of a deep threat. Despite teams cheating up and putting 8 in a box, Cassel has one of the worst deep pass % completion in the league.

A QB who can read the defense and react to the blitz. Defenses constantly had more blitzers than blockers, and Cassel never picked it up. And Cassel NEVER finds a hot route.

A QB who can lead a team from behind. It's been 3 years now. Cassel has allowed blowouts to happen because instead of shooting out with the other team, he wastes the first 4 possessions when the other team gets an early lead. And in 3 years, how many 2 minute comebacks has he engineered?

Sorry, but we shouldn't congratulate a QB who can thrash bad defenses and relies on a "is my primary receiver wide open, or can I check down." My standard has always been, could a very average QB do the same things as Cassel. And I'd say "yes, and probably much better."

That is going to be hard to find. It's tough to find a QB with all of that. There are probably less than 20 who have all that in the history of the entire game. Leading a team from behind is what I am looking for. It's what Brady had and Russell Wilson had coming out. It's the most important thing imo. If a guy can't do that, then I would pass.

the Talking Can 09-10-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8870647)
Their offensive line sucks.

Their defense is soft and looks like the worst tackling defense in the league.

They have no MLB.

They have no safeties.

Ryan chokes in big games.

He's 0-2 when starting the season on the road.

The Falcons have never won at Arrowhead.

another good call

Falconidae 09-11-2012 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8897664)
That is going to be hard to find. It's tough to find a QB with all of that. There are probably less than 20 who have all that in the history of the entire game. Leading a team from behind is what I am looking for. It's what Brady had and Russell Wilson had coming out. It's the most important thing imo. If a guy can't do that, then I would pass.

You the black bob that disappeared from the falcons messageboard after predicting a Chiefs win based on superior depth?

Pasta Little Brioni 09-11-2012 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Falconidae (Post 8900915)
You the black bob that disappeared from the falcons messageboard after predicting a Chiefs win based on superior depth?

If he was crying about Bowe and DJ whilst nibbling on Siler's nutsack...yep

KCUnited 09-11-2012 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Falconidae (Post 8883333)
You the BlackBob on the Falcons board that basically claimed that Siler in for DJ wasn't a huge drop off?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falconidae (Post 8900915)
You the black bob that disappeared from the falcons messageboard after predicting a Chiefs win based on superior depth?

***crickets***

Black Bob 09-11-2012 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Falconidae (Post 8900915)
You the black bob that disappeared from the falcons messageboard after predicting a Chiefs win based on superior depth?

Yep. That was me. It wasn't enough and if you noticed, I didn't include Jaques Reeves on that list. Also, go **** yourself for misquoting me about Siler. I never said he wasn't a big drop off from DJ. You did asshole.

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8900938)
If he was crying about Bowe and DJ whilst nibbling on Siler's nutsack...yep

Way to join in the boot party pussy.

Black Bob 09-11-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8897713)
another good call

Pretty good imo.

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Their offensive line sucks. - I still think it does. We hardly blitzed and they could not run.

Their defense is soft and looks like the worst tackling defense in the league. - They were very soft in the first half.

They have no MLB. - Dent hardly played. They lined up in the nickel almost all day.

They have no safeties. - They were owned by McCluster and the TEs just as I predicted. Moore got a lucky int. So what?

Ryan chokes in big games. - he did until this one. Like Mike Smith said, it was the greatest game in his career.

He's 0-2 when starting the season on the road. - that was true.

The Falcons have never won at Arrowhead. - that was also true

Black Bob 09-11-2012 08:42 AM

Here's my response to my predictions over there... In case you give a shit.

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/top.../page__st__360

and by the way.... **** you Falconidae

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[quote name='falconidae' timestamp='1347385076' post='7022327']



No, You didn't actually say there was no drop off between DJ and Siler, however, you did talk about the quality depth your team had and used Siler replacing DJ as one of the examples and certainly implied that.

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/top.../page__st__360



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