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Exoter175 03-09-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9479783)
"i love Lewis at FS"

Are you a masochist?

Nooooo

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9479785)
Um, people need to get over the idea that Kendrick Lewis is part of anything solid for us.

Dunta Robinson is coming here to take his job.

Who's going to play corner across from Flowers?

It isn't going to be Arenas. And why would Lewis step down to Robinson at FS? Dunta's knock is zone coverage, FS is primarily for zone coverage coverage.

You don't bring the FS down into the box to put 8 in the box, you bring down your SS (Berry) who excels in run support.

If Dunta plays Man well, and we notoriously play man well, and are missing a CB opposite flowers, it stands to reason that we brought Dunta in to star opposite Flowers, but in a role similar to Asomugha in Oakland, I see this being a bit more specific to the defensive scheme rather than "line up on that guy". I think with Reid here, we're going to see Berry and and Robinson lined up opposite the Offense's strongside, playing to our secondary's strength immensely.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-09-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9479784)
NEIN!

It does not have to! It only does if we don't do a good job evaluating our own talent, adding new talent, and ****ing the draft up all to hell.

YOU CAN CHANGE THE ENTIRE DIRECTION OF A TEAM IN ONE OFFSEASON!:cuss:

Taking the right exit on the Interstate doesn't get you all the way to the destination.

Rausch 03-09-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9479802)
Where is the proof that Dunta Robinson is going to play FS? It sounds like echo-chamber-constructed supposition.

So far.

I really, really hope he's here for FS.

We could draft the best CB out there and then have a locked up secondary...

Hammock Parties 03-09-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9479805)
Who's going to play corner across from Flowers?

There's a whole offseason to go to decide that...but it's not Robinson. He wasn't brought here to play CB after he was utter garbage in Atlanta.

Hammock Parties 03-09-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9479802)
Where is the proof that Dunta Robinson is going to play FS? It sounds like echo-chamber-constructed supposition.

The Bad Guy's source said he was playing FS.

And I have a hard time believing he's being brought here to play CB after how bad he was in Atlanta.

Rausch 03-09-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9479806)
Taking the right exit on the Interstate doesn't get you all the way to the destination.

It can get you to the playoffs though.

And that's step 1...

Exoter175 03-09-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9479788)
We won't be top 5 defense I think 8-8 is more than reasonable. If we do this, and we get several impact and depth players from the draft I'm KEY positions (***** focused on non key positions),then we had a very good year.

I don't think we can afford another miserable season. I also don't think we want a playoff season built purely by stacking the deck without having a pipelineof young guys to replace those mediocre players. As I've said, I don't like the Alex smith trade, but if he starts all year but we have top notch options to replace him in a year or two, im ok with the trade. And no... Top notch does not mean grabbing a raw guy at a value pick unless you are absolutely convinced about his upside.

Stop, put it in park.

That statement was directed at the 2012 Pittsburgh season and has nothing to do with the Chiefs, at all.

It just goes to show you that a QB that can win you games does not always translate to good team performance.

slimdagreat 03-09-2013 12:44 PM

he was decent last year. As long as he isn't the CB1 I'm good with signing him

saphojunkie 03-09-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9479740)
What concerns me more is the tenor of the fans thinking that it is somehow 2005 again and that free agency is going to solve our problems.

They're acting like this is a one year fix and it isn't. Just because we have jack and shit in the way of depth doesn't mean we should look to the least efficient mechanism to fill that depth.

Rebuilding like this is a sure way to get to mediocrity, but it won't get us above and beyond that.

What the **** ever, dude. So far we have resigned our best players that were drafted by this team and added one free agent for a gaping hole, and traded for a decent - not great, but at least legitimate - starter at quarterback. I'm not a fan of Alex Smith at all, but you have jumped to hyperbole.

This is not rebuilding through free agency - it's just getting ready for the draft. What the ****? You want them to have drafted Milliner instead? Well, too bad. That's kinda hard to do today, considering that, you know, the draft isn't for another month and a half.

Man, some of you people are truly in full meltdown mode. I'm still cautiously optimistic that the QB position will be addressed in the draft and Alex Smith will not start every game in 2013.

If KC can trade down and still draft a QB in the first or early second, I will not complain for one second, even if its a guy I don't want, like Matt Barkley. At least they will have gone for it. Despite hating the Alex Smith trade, I am reserving my full-on "this franchise refuses to do it right!" panic for when we have officially not taken a QB in the draft.

slimdagreat 03-09-2013 12:45 PM

still wish we had kept Carr last offseason but what can you do?

Rausch 03-09-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by slimdagreat (Post 9479822)
still wish we had kept Carr last offseason....

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Exoter175 03-09-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9479811)
There's a whole offseason to go to decide that...but it's not Robinson. He wasn't brought here to play CB after he was utter garbage in Atlanta.

Actually, he has.

Also, if he was utter garbage in Atlanta, a team that was on fire and one of the most picked at the beginning of the season to make the super bowl for the NFC, how did that team make it into the playoffs? I mean, if he was such a liability and all.

Ohhh, I get it, you're focused on statistics that show Dunta is below average, when the same statistics suggest that Dunta was thrown against considerably more than say, our #2, because Atlanta was winning, and Kansas City was losing.


Honestly, it surprises me how much you people forget the laws of football statistics when making an argument.

A team that is winning, runs. A team that is losing, passes.

It would stand to reason that the statistics have an inverse relation in this case, do they not?

Dunta was on a winning team and got thrown against quite a bit, yes? It would stand to reason that his statistics are inflated due to that. Also, consider for a moment the quality of opponents the Falcons faced last year before you pass judgement.

slimdagreat 03-09-2013 12:48 PM

anybody have access to football outsiders?
I'm curious to see Dunta's DVOA numbers

Rausch 03-09-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9479832)
Actually, he has.

Also, if he was utter garbage in Atlanta, a team that was on fire and one of the most picked at the beginning of the season to make the super bowl for the NFC, how did that team make it into the playoffs? I mean, if he was such a liability and all.

They scored more than Gono at the Playboy mansion...

Hammock Parties 03-09-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9479832)
Actually, he has.

Also, if he was utter garbage in Atlanta, a team that was on fire and one of the most picked at the beginning of the season to make the super bowl for the NFC, how did that team make it into the playoffs? I mean, if he was such a liability and all.

Ohhh, I get it, you're focused on statistics that show Dunta is below average, when the same statistics suggest that Dunta was thrown against considerably more than say, our #2, because Atlanta was winning, and Kansas City was losing.


Honestly, it surprises me how much you people forget the laws of football statistics when making an argument.

A team that is winning, runs. A team that is losing, passes.

It would stand to reason that the statistics have an inverse relation in this case, do they not?

Dunta was on a winning team and got thrown against quite a bit, yes? It would stand to reason that his statistics are inflated due to that. Also, consider for a moment the quality of opponents the Falcons faced last year before you pass judgement.

I'm glad your homerism has convinced you Dunta Robinson is good, but he's not.

The guy got beat, a lot.

When only 4 guys in the league allow more yards, you get moved to free safety, because you suck as a CB.

And the move actually makes a lot of sense, because he can hit and tackle, two things Kendrick Lewis can't do at all.


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