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bsp4444 03-14-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498218)
apparently some of you dont realize that Tamba Hali is probably one of TWO defenders on the entire team that the other teams offense actually game plan for as a factor during the week. He's that good. He's getting old, but he's good, let's say he's similar to dwight freeney/robert mathis, he's still got well til hes 33/34

How much, if any, do the responsibilities change for OLB's if we are changing to a 1-gap 3-4 defense? Could that weigh in ont he decision for the top pick?

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498240)
Does 8-8 win you a Superbowl? No, it doesn't.

No, it doesn't. But it also trends in the right direction.

How many times in Chiefs history have they actually been 8-8 for a season?

The Franchise 03-14-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498250)
No, it doesn't. But it also trends in the right direction.

How many times in Chiefs history have they actually been 8-8 for a season?

Trends in the right direction? Like that 10-6 season in 2010?

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9498241)
For what?

Is this a serious question?

Rasputin 03-14-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498233)
8-8 is still better than 2-14, 4-12, 7-9, 4-12 and 2-14.

8-8 doesn't get you any closer to the Super Bowl than 2-14, 4-12,7-9,4-12 if your not going to draft and develop a QB to take the leap into the post season and beyond.

KC_Lee 03-14-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498245)
You want realistic expectations for Alex Smith?

His 2nd year here.....he better have us in the AFC Championship game.

Without the benefit of the last place schedule he will get this year? I doubt it will happen.

Deberg_1990 03-14-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498240)
Does 8-8 win you a Superbowl? No, it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9498241)
For what?

From a business owners perspective it makes sense. minimum 8-10 wins keeps butts in seats and fan interest up.


Not saying i agree with it, but i can see the business owners side. Clark wants the bleeding to stop RIGHT NOW. Not next year, or the year after.

ptlyon 03-14-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498250)
No, it doesn't. But it also trends in the right direction.

How many times in Chiefs history have they actually been 8-8 for a season?

How many playoff games have they won since '93?

mcaj22 03-14-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9498239)
I'm not sure he's in decline or not, but his production certainly dropped off last season and im not as certain as you are that it's his supporting cast's fault. He's getting older, he was never an outstanding athlete to begin with, so it's not far fetched to believe that his best days are behind him.

If the Chiefs are in a position for a luxury pick, and it's not going to be a QB, then OLB seems to be the sexiest pick out there.

Tamba Hali IS an outstanding athlete are you nuts. Find a guy as big as him with that kind of stamina that goes until the whistle. He has blood and sweat coming off him in the 4th quarter in blowout games and hes still making a team's LT earn their pay check that week.

There was a gaping hole at LBer behind him, literally, he was playing next to a bum at DE when our starter got hurt, he had an awful safety that cant come up in the box and play the run or do ANYTHING. And Stanford Routt, Jalil Brown, Javier Arenas to his right... need I say more

there's a reason they signed guys like Dunta Robinson and Mike Devito. Run support, guys that will come up in the box and bang next to Tamba. I may not like the signings but Tamba will still come to work against every teams highest paid offensive lineman, their LT, protecting their most important position in the game, their QB. And that offense has to game plan specifically for him and that.... every week.

The Franchise 03-14-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9498258)
Without the benefit of the last place schedule he will get this year? I doubt it will happen.

Then Alex Smith is ****ing worthless.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498252)
Trends in the right direction? Like that 10-6 season in 2010?

It's quite clear that the 10-6 season was not a trend or otherwise, they'd have been able to follow it up with a 10-6 record or better.

If the Chiefs go from 2-14 to 8-8, that's improvement. That's progress. That's moving in the right direction.

Now, if they fall back to 2-14 or 4-12 or 6-10, they have a serious problem, whether it's QB or pass rusher, etc. But that hasn't happened yet, has it?

ptlyon 03-14-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498254)
Is this a serious question?

Yes,. What does it gain?

Answer: not a damn thing

BigCatDaddy 03-14-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498240)
Does 8-8 win you a Superbowl? No, it doesn't.

8-8 makes TrueFans happy.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9498256)
8-8 doesn't get you any closer to the Super Bowl than 2-14, 4-12,7-9,4-12 if your not going to draft and develop a QB to take the leap into the post season and beyond.

:facepalm:

This team has not put together consecutive winning seasons since 2005-2006, when the team was on a step decline.

If they don't improve to 8-8 or better in 2013 and stay around the 2-4 win mark, they have far more serious issues than Alex Smith. And if Alex Smith is solely responsible for a 2 or 3 or 4 game season, he'll be gone.

The Franchise 03-14-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498279)
:facepalm:

This team has not put together consecutive winning seasons since 2005-2006, when the team was on a step decline.

If they don't improve to 8-8 or better in 2013 and stay around the 2-4 win mark, they have far more serious issues than Alex Smith. And if Alex Smith is solely responsible for a 2 or 3 or 4 game season, he'll be gone.

And if Alex Smith is gone after this year then someone's head should roll because it was a ****ing HORRIBLE move.


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