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duncan_idaho 11-12-2015 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 11878826)
I love Moose, but of all the core players right now he would seem to be the most replaceable with something comparable. Since it's assumed we won't resign Hosmer - that really just leaves Cain. Let's say for the sake of argument he's out of reach too no matter what we do. Would you then be ok with selling out for 2016-2017?

I mean we just traded away a bunch of prospects to increase our odds of winning the WS maybe 10%. Why not sell out the future after 2017 to guarantee we'll be right in the mix the next two years?


I'm all for signing up to compete heavily for titles in 16 and 17, before the face of the team changes drastically.

I also think Gordon and Zobrist can be productive enough on the back end of deals to make things work.

I'd also be fine with extending Cain by 2-3 years, and Perez by 2-3, and using some of the payroll room that way. It's good to reward your own guys if you get a few more years of control out of it.

I want at least one veteran bat, to help protect against recession from Moustakas or Hosmer, and otherwise think they can puzzle piece things together (second bat, SP, etc).

That they're showing so much interest in CF types like Bradley does make me think, as I mentioned earlier today, that they may be eyeing a move of Cain to RF sooner rather than later.

It's nice having a strong core that gives you so many options.

Saul Good 11-12-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11878894)
I'm all for signing up to compete heavily for titles in 16 and 17, before the face of the team changes drastically.

I also think Gordon and Zobrist can be productive enough on the back end of deals to make things work.

I'd also be fine with extending Cain by 2-3 years, and Perez by 2-3, and using some of the payroll room that way. It's good to reward your own guys if you get a few more years of control out of it.

I want at least one veteran bat, to help protect against recession from Moustakas or Hosmer, and otherwise think they can puzzle piece things together (second bat, SP, etc).

That they're showing so much interest in CF types like Bradley does make me think, as I mentioned earlier today, that they may be eyeing a move of Cain to RF sooner rather than later.

It's nice having a strong core that gives you so many options.

Totally agree. The best part is that Moose and Hosmer should be much more likely to improve than regress.

tk13 11-12-2015 07:34 PM

Losing Simmons is going to be a huge PR blow for the Braves, but they've built a great collection of pitching prospects. Basically what the Cubs did with position players with Bryant, Soler, Russell, etc, etc... that's what the Braves are with pitching.

They've already got Teheran and Shelby Miller at the big league level, with Matt Wisler, Foltynewicz, Max Fried, Lucas Sims, Touki Toussaint, Kolby Allard, Mike Soroka, Manny Banuelos, Tyrell Jenkins, and now Sean Newcomb and Chris Ellis. They could field an entire pitching staff of prospects most teams fans would be chatting up as future frontline guys.

tk13 11-12-2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11878865)
Why is Hosmer so sure to be gone? The guy is pretty average to this point in his career.

Be interesting to see how his postseason success affects his future contract.

I'd say he'd be in line for a Freddie Freeman type contract at this point... but he is also building a great reputation as a playoff performer. And he'll be a better HR guy in another ballpark.

I'm not as big on selling out the next two years as everyone else. Obviously we are going to go for it, and should... but I think Cuthbert and Mondesi are going to be good players. Bubba has a shot. Ventura and Perez are signed long term. Zimmer and Almonte have great potential. They're never going to retain all these current guys, but with a few smart signings this team can be competitive well into 2020... with a new TV contract to boot. They have a lot of incentive to keep this team competitive for the TV contract.

cosmo20002 11-12-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11878844)
I'm right there with you, except I have been a fan since the very first game this team ever played. For 30 years this team was uninteresting and irrelevant. Remembering the glory days of the mid 1970s and the mid 1980s made the 30 years of SUCK even worse, because I knew what it felt like to be proud to be a Royals fan. I don't EVER want to see that again.

Kind of a small disagreement--They had some up and down years after 1985, sometimes they were contenders, sometimes they weren't, sometimes they were around .500.
The SUCK---truly SUCK years---historic SUCK was 1996-2013, other than the blip in 2003.
Just sayin...

Saul Good 11-12-2015 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11878946)
Kind of a small disagreement--They had some up and down years after 1985, sometimes they were contenders, sometimes they weren't, sometimes they were around .500.
The SUCK---truly SUCK years---historic SUCK was 1996-2013, other than the blip in 2003.
Just sayin...

We didn't suck in 2013, either.

alnorth 11-12-2015 08:18 PM

Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it yet, but Kendrys Morales won the silver slugger award at AL DH

SAUTO 11-12-2015 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11878949)
We didn't suck in 2013, either.

No one would have wanted to see us that year either, had we made the playoffs.

We were on fire to end the season

SAUTO 11-12-2015 08:28 PM

All star break on actually

cosmo20002 11-12-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11878949)
We didn't suck in 2013, either.

That's right, I meant 2012.

ChiefsCountry 11-12-2015 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11878900)
Losing Simmons is going to be a huge PR blow for the Braves, but they've built a great collection of pitching prospects. Basically what the Cubs did with position players with Bryant, Soler, Russell, etc, etc... that's what the Braves are with pitching.

They've already got Teheran and Shelby Miller at the big league level, with Matt Wisler, Foltynewicz, Max Fried, Lucas Sims, Touki Toussaint, Kolby Allard, Mike Soroka, Manny Banuelos, Tyrell Jenkins, and now Sean Newcomb and Chris Ellis. They could field an entire pitching staff of prospects most teams fans would be chatting up as future frontline guys.

Braves are shedding payroll to pay for the new stadium and should have a rebuild started pretty good by the time it opens.

tk13 11-12-2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11879054)
Braves are shedding payroll to pay for the new stadium and should have a rebuild started pretty good by the time it opens.

It's only one more year. I think that's why a lot of Braves fans are ticked. They were building for 2017, feels like this trade pushes it back a bit more. They might be more competitive in two years but probably not ready to hit the big time unless some of these young pitchers take off next year.

Reaper16 11-12-2015 09:27 PM

Getting to that new Braves stadium is going to be America's greatest traffic nightmare.

KChiefs1 11-12-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11878865)
Why is Hosmer so sure to be gone? The guy is pretty average to this point in his career.


Scott Boras

BWillie 11-13-2015 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 11878832)
Many of us don't know how it feels and you were born in 1984? ROFL
What the **** ever.

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