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Rausch 04-17-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12182701)
Yep, he is easily the best thing to happen to this franchise since the beginning of my fandom

The guy has a rock solid blueprint and he sticks to it, he always seems to be thinking 2-3 moves ahead and is building this team the right way... its a LOT like Green Bay or Pittsburgh, with the exception that he is also willing to make the occasional big free agent splash

As far as QB, admittedly few are gaga over Bray or Murray as the future and most would prefer to go all in on a true #1... but he IS treating the position the right way as far as bringing them in as rookies and grooming them long term

They may not be #1 picks, but they ARE homegrown

I have yet to see any real evidence of Bray's "growth."

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-17-2016 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12182702)
If you don't care why even have the conversation?...

Why even talk at all? I'll just sit here and project my thoughts through the ether!

Rausch 04-17-2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12182706)
Why even talk at all? I'll just sit here and project my thoughts through the ether!

Or check out some of that VR porn.

That's some crazy $hizzle right there...

Easy 6 04-17-2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12182704)
I have yet to see any real evidence of Bray's "growth."

I get where you're coming from, but as smart as we know Dorsey to be... theres gotta be a reason he has been kept around all these years

Rausch 04-17-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12182710)
I get where you're coming from, but as smart as we know Dorsey to be... theres gotta be a reason he has been kept around all these years

I wasn't super duper excited about his first 2 years but last year he knocked it out of the park.

I think Bray being on the roster is due to him having a few years in the system and us not about to pay Buttchin...

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-17-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12182708)
Or check out some of that VR porn.

That's some crazy $hizzle right there...

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Sweet Daddy Hate 04-17-2016 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12182715)
I wasn't super duper excited about his first 2 years but last year he knocked it out of the park.

I think Bray being on the roster is due to him having a few years in the system and us not about to pay Buttchin...

I'm fairly certain the method is as follows:

Murray is next man up, and Bray will be competing with whichever low risk/ high upside/ dude that slid down the board-QB they draft next.

You have to consider; the Chiefs will never be drafting in the top 10 again.

And let's assume Dorsey puts together the greatest ****ing squad that ever put on pads, Smithy is getting ready to retire, and Andrew Luck II or whomever makes you fap is sitting right there at the top.

Do you view Dorsey pulling a "Rams"?

Yeah, me neither.

He's looking for Rodgers in round two.

Rausch 04-17-2016 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12182734)
And let's assume Dorsey puts together the greatest ****ing squad that ever put on pads, Smithy is getting ready to retire, and Andrew Luck II or whomever makes you fap is sitting right there at the top.

Do you view Dorsey pulling a "Rams"?

Yeah, me neither.

He's looking for Rodgers in round two.

I don't think he should and I don't think he has to.

If we're in the top 5 pull the trigger. If we're not I don't think we need to trade the farm to move up there.

Even a can't-miss prospect like Luck is starting to regress and become a turnover machine. RGIII can't stay healthy and doesn't look that great after year 1.

If anything I'd look at trading a future 3rd/4th for someone like Petty or Glennon to improve that no 2 spot...

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-17-2016 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12182768)
I don't think he should and I don't think he has to.

If we're in the top 5 pull the trigger. If we're not I don't think we need to trade the farm to move up there.

Even a can't-miss prospect like Luck is starting to regress and become a turnover machine. RGIII can't stay healthy and doesn't look that great after year 1.

If anything I'd look at trading a future 3rd/4th for someone like Petty or Glennon to improve that no 2 spot...

:hmmm: Mmm..I don't know, man. If you're going to improve the #2, you should probably be doing it in the draft, unless you're looking to augment that pick by introducing competition, which is always a good thing.

To your point, Bray doesn't seem to be providing much competition. Has that dude even cracked the legitimate roster yet?

Rausch 04-17-2016 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12182782)
:hmmm: Mmm..I don't know, man. If you're going to improve the #2, you should probably be doing it in the draft, unless you're looking to augment that pick by introducing competition, which is always a good thing.

To your point, Bray doesn't seem to be providing much competition. Has that dude even cracked the legitimate roster yet?

Petty and Glennon both have top shelf arms.

Glennon has starting experience.

Both offer much better upside than Bray with none of the baggage and make QB2 money.

Bray has been an IR jockey...

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-17-2016 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12182794)
Petty and Glennon both have top shelf arms.

Glennon has starting experience.

Both offer much better upside than Bray with none of the baggage and make QB2 money.

Bray has been an IR jockey...

Yeah, that's not good. The dudes under Smith should be duking it out, every day, every year.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12182768)
If anything I'd look at trading a future 3rd/4th for someone like Petty or Glennon to improve that no 2 spot...

Why would the Jets, who don't have a starting QB, trade Bryce Petty when they drafted him in the 4th last year?

Rausch 04-17-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12182839)
Why would the Jets, who don't have a starting QB, trade Bryce Petty when they drafted him in the 4th last year?

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12182839)
If anything I'd look at trading a future 3rd/4th for someone like Petty or Glennon to improve that no 2 spot...

I understand that Andy loves mediocre arms and guys that can scramble but if we can trade for a guy with NFL experience who can make all the throws (without any baggage) for a mid-round pick I'd be all for it.

milkman 04-17-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12182849)
I understand that Andy loves mediocre arms and guys that can scramble but if we can trade for a guy with NFL experience who can make all the throws (without any baggage) for a mid-round pick I'd be all for it.

:rolleyes:

Discuss Thrower 04-17-2016 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12182180)
Its a huge, admirable swing for the fences

My tune is changing on it, with decent QB play this team has enough talent to make real noise, consistently giving teams like Seattle and AZ all they want

And its really the only move they had to show they were serious about bringing a winner to LA

The big if is Fisher, he certainly has his fingerprints all over that brawling style they consistently upset top teams with, dude has always brought the bullyish, nasty defense

But he is such an offensive dinosaur, probably the worst in the NFL, I hope he doesnt wreck this shiny new car

Cowher didn't **** up Rapistburgher


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