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duncan_idaho 04-24-2018 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 13529700)
Gordon has upside?


He has more than Paulo Orlando. That doesn’t mean he has a bunch. Just more than Orlando.

Great Expectations 04-24-2018 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13529820)
The only reason why the Royals can't release him is because of that contract.

Otherwise, if he was making as much as Orlando was, he would have been DFA'ed. Gordon doesn't have any upside whatsoever, and his game has declined dramatically since 2016.

Gordon gets the money if he plays, gets cut, or sits. If he isn’t helping the team he shouldn’t play just because of the contract. The money has already been spent no matter what they decide to do with him. He isn’t going to retire like Meche.

CaliforniaChief 04-24-2018 09:30 PM

Screw it all at this point and just play every kid. It would be eminently more fun to watch.

GloryDayz 04-24-2018 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 13529700)
Gordon has upside?

Yeah, if he gets somebody in your family pregnant you might get a better turkey day bird every year.

teedubya 04-24-2018 09:33 PM

Hey Duncan,

Did you ever hear why the Royals fired Dave Eiland? The pitching coach was great during the run, and I just couldn't figure out why they let him go. Do you have any insights in that?

tk13 04-24-2018 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 13529921)
Gordon gets the money if he plays, gets cut, or sits. If he isn’t helping the team he shouldn’t play just because of the contract. The money has already been spent no matter what they decide to do with him. He isn’t going to retire like Meche.

He's still the best defensive LF in the game and this franchise has always valued defense highly. I'm sure the contract is part of it but Gordon brings something to the table at a very high level. And he's not blocking anyone.

At least until Bonifacio comes back. Then things might be different depending on what Cuthbert is doing and if Moose is still on the team.

duncan_idaho 04-25-2018 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 13529966)
Hey Duncan,



Did you ever hear why the Royals fired Dave Eiland? The pitching coach was great during the run, and I just couldn't figure out why they let him go. Do you have any insights in that?


I don’t think it was anything more than wanting to make a change. Sometimes, messages get stale. Also not sure working with and developing young guys is really his skill set.

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13529820)
The only reason why the Royals can't release him is because of that contract.



Otherwise, if he was making as much as Orlando was, he would have been DFA'ed. Gordon doesn't have any upside whatsoever, and his game has declined dramatically since 2016.


His upside is that if he can find a way to be even an average offensive player, he is still a good enough defender to provide some value.

Not saying I think that will happen, but considering how good he has been and that he has always shown good OBP ability, there’s at least a path there.

If we see more things like his double to left-center last night, I might start to think it can happen, at least a little.

You’re right that if he didn’t have the big contract, they could dispense with him as easily as they can with Orlando or Tyler Collins. But that’s not the situation.

WhawhaWhat 04-25-2018 04:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned Yost tells <a href="https://twitter.com/DreamFactoryKC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DreamFactoryKC</a> child, Sarina that he’ll get Esky to sign her ball and he’ll bring it back. He brought back more than a ball. <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kmbc</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/whywelovebaseball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#whywelovebaseball</a> <a href="https://t.co/s117VjezqM">pic.twitter.com/s117VjezqM</a></p>&mdash; Len Jennings (@lenjenningsKMBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/lenjenningsKMBC/status/989259554792902656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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BlackHelicopters 04-25-2018 04:19 PM

Rain out?

CaliforniaChief 04-25-2018 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13530900)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned Yost tells <a href="https://twitter.com/DreamFactoryKC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DreamFactoryKC</a> child, Sarina that he’ll get Esky to sign her ball and he’ll bring it back. He brought back more than a ball. <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kmbc</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/whywelovebaseball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#whywelovebaseball</a> <a href="https://t.co/s117VjezqM">pic.twitter.com/s117VjezqM</a></p>&mdash; Len Jennings (@lenjenningsKMBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/lenjenningsKMBC/status/989259554792902656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So cool! Thanks for sharing.

Bowser 04-25-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13530900)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned Yost tells <a href="https://twitter.com/DreamFactoryKC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DreamFactoryKC</a> child, Sarina that he’ll get Esky to sign her ball and he’ll bring it back. He brought back more than a ball. <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kmbc</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/whywelovebaseball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#whywelovebaseball</a> <a href="https://t.co/s117VjezqM">pic.twitter.com/s117VjezqM</a></p>&mdash; Len Jennings (@lenjenningsKMBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/lenjenningsKMBC/status/989259554792902656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Very cool!

Alcides Escobar can go the rest of his life saying he led off a World Series by hitting an inside the park home run. How kick ass is that?

no love 04-25-2018 06:43 PM

I'll just leave this here:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...to-mlb-tanking

Hosmer related

WhawhaWhat 04-25-2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13531133)
Very cool!

Alcides Escobar can go the rest of his life saying he led off a World Series by hitting an inside the park home run. How kick ass is that?

and maybe just as unlikely, he was ALCS MVP.

GloryDayz 04-25-2018 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13530900)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned Yost tells <a href="https://twitter.com/DreamFactoryKC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DreamFactoryKC</a> child, Sarina that he’ll get Esky to sign her ball and he’ll bring it back. He brought back more than a ball. <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kmbc</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/whywelovebaseball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#whywelovebaseball</a> <a href="https://t.co/s117VjezqM">pic.twitter.com/s117VjezqM</a></p>&mdash; Len Jennings (@lenjenningsKMBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/lenjenningsKMBC/status/989259554792902656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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We can never get enough of moments like that...

Chiefspants 04-25-2018 07:15 PM

This Mike Moustakas is a pretty good player


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