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DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 14913427)
On the RB topic, I must add I like Mahomes TT buddy they just signed. Washington is the size of Thompson but the latter kind of play. Thompson is a grinder, Washington is a shifty-speedy scat back. Gonna be really interesting.

I'll never understand why anyone gets excited about signing guys off the scrap heap for Vet Minimum, including this guy, who wasn't re-signed by the Raiders, of all teams.

Even IF he makes the roster and even IF he proves to be a contributor of sorts, he's 27 years old, so he's not a long term solution by any stretch of the imagination.

Thompson has shown nothing, other than he's completely clueless on the field and has the ball awareness of an old turd.

RealSNR 04-17-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14913438)
Basically if your front office isn't smart or makes weird decisions or doesn't evaluate that great, bad draft incoming.

Which is why a bunch of these choad GMs wanted to delay the draft.

**** them. If you suck at your job, then own up to it and let the entire country watch you **** up.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-17-2020 09:56 AM

I'm gonna guess Patrick Queen or whatever his name is the LB from LSU

Mecca 04-17-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14913493)
Which is why a bunch of these choad GMs wanted to delay the draft.

**** them. If you suck at your job, then own up to it and let the entire country watch you **** up.

The Browns are totally going to take Ezra Cleveland with a top 20 pick....

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14913493)
Which is why a bunch of these choad GMs wanted to delay the draft.

**** them. If you suck at your job, then own up to it and let the entire country watch you **** up.

Yeah, there's no doubt that the 2020 Draft could serve as a litmus test for owners looking to replace their current GM's.

It could also provide a clear delineation between "Old School" paper-driven scouts and younger GM's who employ analytics in their draft strategies.

Or not.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 14913499)
I'm gonna guess Patrick Queen or whatever his name is the LB from LSU

This kind of insight would make you a fine GM.

In the 1930's.

Mecca 04-17-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14913505)
Yeah, there's no doubt that the 2020 Draft could serve as a litmus test for owners looking to replace their current GM's.

It could also provide a clear delineation between "Old School" paper-driven scouts and younger GM's who employ analytics in their draft strategies.

Or not.

Dave Gettlemen also about to **** up hard, but everyone already thinks he's the worst GM.

DJ's left nut 04-17-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14913500)
The Browns are totally going to take Ezra Cleveland with a top 20 pick....

Every now and again I have to remind myself what a shit draw we got as Chiefs fans for 20+ years.

Think about it - the year we got the #1 overall pick we essentially TOOK Ezra Cleveland. And the worst part of that? IT WAS THE RIGHT MOVE!!

I mean hindsight says that Hopkins, Bakhtiari, Kelce and Bell have had better careers, but none of those guys were in serious consideration for the top spot so it's hard to say the Chiefs made a mistake there.

Among the 10 or so guys that were even considered possibilities at 1.1, Fisher has had the best career and by a fair amount.

What kind of god-awful luck is that? We took a #1 overall pick, who was the right pick, who probably would struggle to sneak into the top 20 in a truly good draft year.

Just remarkable.

Mecca 04-17-2020 10:05 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I had a GM tell me, “The media is wronger about mock drafts this year than you guys have ever been.” Point being, players are going to be taken in places no one expects. <a href="https://t.co/oyDHSndqkl">https://t.co/oyDHSndqkl</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1251100172228218880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So we're gonna see some really stupid shit happen?

DJ's left nut 04-17-2020 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14913522)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I had a GM tell me, “The media is wronger about mock drafts this year than you guys have ever been.” Point being, players are going to be taken in places no one expects. <a href="https://t.co/oyDHSndqkl">https://t.co/oyDHSndqkl</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1251100172228218880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So we're gonna see some really stupid shit happen?

It is worth noting that Brugler's mock looks crazy to us.

BUT - there's no better source of information in the draftiverse. Brugler's coverage is absolutely top-shelf.

His draft may look odd, but it's also probably better informed than anything else we're seeing out there. He's probably a little closer to right than most think.

Nate Taylor has been saying similar stuff for over a month - he thinks there are going to be some really surprising slides and thinks guys like Queen and Murray could easily be there for us, maybe even into the mid-2nd.

duncan_idaho 04-17-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 14913349)
We will let the draft and Brett Veach speak to this next week during the draft. I can all but gaurantee you we arent selecting a wide receiver early only to come and sit on the bench this year behind Hill/Watkins/Hardman to get ready to "slide into place" the following year.

We are likely Super Bowl favorites THIS year. Your early draft picks better damn well fill a need THIS year as well as the future. There is a time and place to build strictly for the future and this year ain't it! Need to draft accordingly.

You could have said the same about QB the year they picked Mahomes. Many "experts" did.

You could have said the same thing the year they picked Bitchmade Dee to come sit behind Tamba Hali and Justin Houston (which he did for multiple seasons).

Veach has publicly stated they're looking at picks that help them for the next 2-3 years. Basing a pick on year 1 need is a good way to reduce the amount of value you get out of your selections.

The Chiefs don't have a fatal flaw so glaring they have to plug it this year.

If they're at 32 and one of the top 4 WR (Lamb, Jeudy, Ruggs, Jefferson) has fallen, the LBs and CBs that are first-round guys are off the board, and Swift has fallen, I 100 percent believe they'll take one of those guys. I'd lean towards them taking the RB. But if you can get a WR who would be a top 15 pick in almost any other draft at #32, it's a move that makes sense. Even if he IS going to get a lower number of snaps in his first season.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14913517)
Every now and again I have to remind myself what a shit draw we got as Chiefs fans for 20+ years.

Think about it - the year we got the #1 overall pick we essentially TOOK Ezra Cleveland. And the worst part of that? IT WAS THE RIGHT MOVE!!

I mean hindsight says that Hopkins, Bakhtiari, Kelce and Bell have had better careers, but none of those guys were in serious consideration for the top spot so it's hard to say the Chiefs made a mistake there.

Among the 10 or so guys that were even considered possibilities at 1.1, Fisher has had the best career and by a fair amount.

What kind of god-awful luck is that? We took a #1 overall pick, who was the right pick, who probably would struggle to sneak into the top 20 in a truly good draft year.

Just remarkable.

It really was shit-tastic luck.

Shields68 04-17-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14913512)
Dave Gettlemen also about to **** up hard, but everyone already thinks he's the worst GM.

`On the positive side the Giants will not take a QB early and have the 4th pick. Most of the time people only remember round 1 mistakes. So a good chance that he won't whiff on the first round pick and this will go down as a successful draft for him.

The Franchise 04-17-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14913541)
It is worth noting that Brugler's mock looks crazy to us.

BUT - there's no better source of information in the draftiverse. Brugler's coverage is absolutely top-shelf.

His draft may look odd, but it's also probably better informed than anything else we're seeing out there. He's probably a little closer to right than most think.

Nate Taylor has been saying similar stuff for over a month - he thinks there are going to be some really surprising slides and thinks guys like Queen and Murray could easily be there for us, maybe even into the mid-2nd.

Veach is going to have an opportunity to put ****ing clown shoes on some of these other GMs.

Mecca 04-17-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14913595)
Veach is going to have an opportunity to put ****ing clown shoes on some of these other GMs.

If you buy into reports, apparently most GM's don't think there's a ton of difference in the talent at 20 and the talent at 60 so the odds of anyone trading up in those spots isn't high.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-17-2020 10:32 AM

If guys like Queen and Murray are there into the mid-2nd... shouldn’t that make us wonder if they’re worth the pick even more so?

Personally I love Queen and only like Murray. So if Queen got to 32, I’d be pretty disappointed if he wasn’t the pick. But I’d also wonder what the knock is that has him sliding..


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