Losing the World Series in Kansas City in front of everyone is what I would expect being a fan of Kansas City / missouri sports teams LMAO

Its typical.

"momentum" is not a thing in baseball

We've still got a fighting chance. I expected this to be a dogfight all the way anyway, so I guess that's where we are. The Giants aren't like the Angels or O's, they're hard to kill.

You're like a ****ing five year old is what you are. There is a Cardinals thread you can go to. And I can see my dick just fine... You sure seem to like thinking and talking about dicks and jerking off dicks.

I'm already over this game. I'm going to go pray to the Little Baby Jesus that James finds his game, and brings it strong tomorrow night.:)

I don't think it's a thing in any sport, but that's a different discussion

That made me dizzy

If you had a healthy Cain this series would be totally different. But by that same token if we had a healthy Wacha, I don't think you make it past us. Injuries are part of the game and breaks.

Here we go boys!

Hahaha. Stare Strickland down Gordon

it was when Vargas walked off on the 3rd ball in my opinion
Yes. I think Vargas lost focus after walking towards first on the 3rd ball

Its all rigged /ramsidiotjackson

sorry

im not thinking super clearly, but this next game is pretty much as close to a must win for both teams as you can get, without being one.

The odds will heavily HEAVILY swing in favor of whoever wins the next game. (I know, captain obvious observations...I just didnt realize HOW much the odds would swing exactly....)

I've avoided that thread all together, but I've heard all about it

Well that's just about fitting.

Yet Gordo doesn't advance! Wow, just wow. That's tonight in a nutshell...

Even if this game goes to 7 games, bumgarner will have to pitch on 2 days rest.

It's the Giants' series to lose now..

And Tiny Tim was burnt up for at least one game.

ROFL

They'd start someone else, Hudson, Vogelson, Petit. Bumgarner would probably be available out of the bullpen though.

He isn't going to start another game after tomorrow night

They have level swings and can "see" the ball...

We forgot how to, throw strikes, swing level, play where they hit it, and basically play baseball...

I dont agree , UNTIL / UNLESS sf wins the next one

the next game is absolutely the pivot point

I don't think so. I don't care what the Vegas odds say.......Pitching Peavy and Hudson at the K is not going to be great odds. Their stuff sucks. The K rocks.

Like it matters down 7?

They do know this is the World Series, right?

Giants have recent ship exp. they are in a great spot ;)

SHUD UP JOE BUCK

That was painful! Very!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Royals are a good team eh? THEN WHY THE FLYING **** DO YOU ALWAYS FEATURE THE ****ING GIANTS LIKE THEY ARE ****ING BASEBALL GODS FOX. ****YOU

should have pinch hit Butler for Hosmer.... we weren't coming back, and it would have been nice to give him an at bat instead of not playing for 3 straight days.

Well, that was more for those who said there wasn't any quit in these players.

right but even if you give 2:1 odds in each game AGAINST peavy and hudson, to win two games in a row you are still an underdog...according to my shitty calculator (roughly 43% chance to win both games @ 2:1 favorites in each game)

Just know, if the Giants win the world series, they're greedy because they win it every other year and the Royals haven't won in 29 years and that they have to live with their greedy selves. So really their life sucks.

Now AA will interview all the fat-asses and terrorists!

It's sthickening, isn't it?

I know I've heard those names before, but I've forgotten where.

But giving a team life when they had none is a thing.

Again, What does it matter? If we need him tomorrow, he'll be ready. One AB tonight wouldn't make a shitting bit of difference

But oh so fun to snatch it away from them again too

I actually feel alright after this one.

Even if Bumgarner (holy shit I'm tired of him already) does Bumgarner things tomorrow, we're coming back to KC against (I'm assuming) Peavy & Hudson, both of whom we've already beat.

I can't say I feel amazing or anything, cause we just got blown the **** out. But we responded well the last time we lost and BGJ is due for a good outing. Hell, Bumgarner's due for a bad outing for that matter (fat chance, I know).

I'm not saying KC wins the whole thing. But the sky is not falling. Nor will it be if they drop tomorrow's game, either.

I would not have sent Vargas out to start the 5th. Doing that may have possibly cost us a run, but it did not cost us the game.

Everything else Ned did was defensible. Blaming him for the loss would be absurd. The players lost the game on the field.

It would be oh so sweet to win it with a 9th inning walkoff in game 7 in Kansas City

How many Giants have given Buck a facial by now?

I agree. Can't really blame him for trying squeeze out an out in the top of the 5th with Vargas. That double to start the inning hurt and it hurt bad after they got on a roll even with Duffy.

A Billy bomb for a walk off home run in game 7

IN

It's my fault guys. Went to P&L and it was madhouse. The vibe was all wrong tonight. I should have stayed home. Unfortunately I will be out all evening tomorrow night.

Needed a lefty against Panik. Vargas was fine in that situation. Just didn't get the job done. Just like Frasor couldn't get Pence.

The only thing I am blaming Yost on was when Dyson got on base, and he sends up Nori.

SF has the momentum because of the 5th inning, yet Dyson snatched some of that momentum away after making a extra runs amazing catch. When Dyson got on base, I sensed the momentum was slowly moving back to KC's favor.

So it would had made more sense to have Nori bunt to move Dyson into RSIP.

Nope.

Grounded into a double play, momentum went DEFCON 1 in favor of SF.

Game.

Everything else, you're right, it is defensible.

Yup. Anyone blaming Yost is just silly.

Well, hopefully Vargas and the bullpen got all their WS nerves out of the way tonight. Hopefully Shields got rid of his nerves in game one. But if he shits the bed again tomorrow, I will be pissed.

Really, Dyson should have been stealing. In that case, he would have made it to second and the throw to first would have been late... putting both players on base.

WHY THE **** DO WE NOT STEAL BASES ANYMORE?

Haven't you heard?

Momentum doesn't exist in baseball.

Teams are doing a much better job of defending it. Aoki only gave him like two pitches to go anyway. But Petit was mixing up his times. He held the ball forever before throwing the pitch that was the double play ball. Dyson just didn't get a read. Both of the last two series... the pitchers are really mixing up their hold times and getting it to the plate quickly.

This was the first game I got to go out and enjoy at a bar.

It was so awesome during the third inning... the whole place was absolutely crazy.

Went across the street to Applebee's to grab a burger and everything went to shit.

**** you Applebees.

I find that hard to believe that it doesn't exist in baseball.....

No one likes joe ****ing buck. Even Joes own mother hates him. Everyone hates him. He hates the Giants. And ill tell you why.

Back before he was JOE Buck, he was trying to interview Barry Bonds, and Barry Bonds basically stiffed him because of some negative comments Joe had made about him previously.

Joe has hated the Giants ever since then. Joe Buck is a CARDS HOMER. Nothing more nothing less. Now, while he MIGHT hate the Royals, as I stated last night that he hates the small market, he is no GIANTS fan.

Bleh.

Ned not being asked any hard questions! Nice to be him!

Oh shit, he sounds like he's just happy to be alive!

I didn't realize this, but Panik has as reverse split, so Frasor would have been the better call there

You must be deaf then, He's loved you all series long!

Yup. Joe Buck neither likes the Royals or Giants. Anyone in the Cards way is evil.

The baseball experts around here all agree that it doesn't exist.

Really? **** I didn't realize that.

And Ned, NONE of you pitchers were sharp tonight! **** off asshole!

And none of your bats are swung level!

Royals in 6.

well, it doesn't. Momentum is not a real thing in baseball.

I disagree with the "experts". There was a massive momentum shift when they tied the game and Aoki GIDP in the 6th.

Well, I'll just respectfully tell them that they're just flat out wrong.

See 1985 WS, Game 6 as evidence.
See 2003 NLCS, Game 6 as evidence.
See 2004 ALCS, Game 4 as evidence, which snowballed from there on out.

I disagree. It does. See post above.

Momentum absolutely exists in all sports. To say otherwise just plain dumb.

quantify this so-called "momentum".

Do you think the players went "oh God this sucks, I don't wanna play hard anymore" or "oh yay, we're winning, time to amp it up!"

The players are going to do what they are going to do, based on what the situation calls for.

Belief in "momentum" is right up there with belief in voodoo magic or witchcraft in my book.

Save your fingers. I agree with you, but I won't even argue it with the Stat Geeks on here. You won't win:D

Well, that was a pisser.

See post 2315:D

Your evidence is nonsense.

Momentum does not exist. Pointing to a few times in history where a team suddenly goes on a roll only shows that sometimes something that has a 1-in-10 chance of happening, happens.

MadBum has an ERA over 4 at AT&T Park this year.

Agree with this, but it turns on a dime and I have no idea how any of it actually works. Just keep playing hard and doing all you can with a positive attitude and good things usually happen.