Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 11880091)

I hope it IS because of health reasons...

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11880090)

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11880107)

Of course you do.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11880203)

Unnamed sources claiming he is leaving to a Safe Space



Hope he gets healthy.

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 11880213)

LOL

I'm sure he is tired of the pussification of mizzou

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11880203)

Unnamed sources claiming he is leaving to a Safe Space



Hope he gets healthy.

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 11880195)

About to be some dark years in Mizzou athletics...

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11880341)

Alright let's build a list...who does everyone want?

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11880449)

Mizzou gonna be Vandy-level bad without Pinkel I feel.

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11880169)

Odom? (Is that why Kul stayed after being passed over?)
Herman?

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11880514)

Pat Fitzgerald
Justin Fuentes
Kirby Smary

That's where I'd start...

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11880556)

I wonder if Smart might be a product of the talent he has had.

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11880514)

Pat Fitzgerald
Justin Fuentes
Kirby Smary

That's where I'd start...

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11880630)

While awful that Pinkel has to deal with is, if he is going to leave this is a relatively good time, as he is close to the top of his powers and the program hasn't decayed significantly, as often happens with other long-time coaches near the end of their tenure.

Pinkel was a good coach, but just because he's leaving we don't have to pretend that his record was better than it was. Mizzou was never going to be any better than it has been over the last five or so years with Pinkel there.

He rebuilt the program from the ashes. Now, if they can hire the right candidate, there is a reasonable chance that the program can actually improve, not slide back.

Get well, GP, and enjoy your grandkids.

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11880672)

So Pinkel has what Eric Berry had?

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11880131)

theres no way to really know what he has, but if it's an NHL that hasn't responded to two rounds of treatment, he might be looking at a serious diagnosis.

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 11880687)

The treatment landscape for Indolent NHL is advancing at an incredible pace, though, especially in the I/O anti-PD-L1 landscape. With GP's health, he could likely get in any of the rapidly expanding trials for these. I know Celgene and Genentech have trials underway in the lymphoma landscape. But generally at that age your chances of being refractory to first-line therapy are pretty high.

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 11880687)

The treatment landscape for Indolent NHL is advancing at an incredible pace, though, especially in the I/O anti-PD-L1 landscape. With GP's health, he could likely get in any of the rapidly expanding trials for these. I know Celgene and Genentech have trials underway in the lymphoma landscape. But generally at that age your chances of being refractory to first-line therapy are pretty high.

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11880672)

So Pinkel has what Eric Berry had?

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 11880934)

Berry had Hodgkin's lymphoma, while Pinkel has non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. From what I understand, non-Hodgkin's is a much more aggresive form of lymphoma and is a lot less-easily treated.

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 11880934)

Berry had Hodgkin's lymphoma, while Pinkel has non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. From what I understand, non-Hodgkin's is a much more aggresive form of lymphoma and is a lot less-easily treated.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11881212)

Tom Herman of Houston is my no 1 target. New coach will have HC experience, and Herman is a little light there, but he's a future star, imo.

Justin Fuente is also a strong candidate.

Kirby Smart can **** off, though. Just not impressed by him.

Matt Campbell of toledo will also be a contender. And if they do consider an assistant, Barry Odom is the only one I could see them going to die to his ties to Mizzou.

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 11881247)

Herman & Fuente are the kinds of hires I'd typically get excited about. Herman is interesting, too, because Mack Rhoades hired him at Houston. *sits in chair petting cat like Dr. Claw*

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11881301)

Huge bummer of a day.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11880453)

Nah - Mizzou should've never been that bad to begin with.

A credible coach has Mizzou in contention for Bowl games most years. Stull and Widenhoffer were simply so catastrophically awful that they led fans to believe that the default position of the program was 'shit'.

If you bring a truly horrific coach in here, the program will suck. But MU has a large enough footprint, fertile enough recruiting grounds and enough resources to be no worse than a solid college football program year in, year out (with the occasional stinker here and there).

I'm not worried about the long-term. I'm mostly concerned about getting through the present shitstorm and then I'll decide if I give a good god damn about anything this University does (apart from paying my wife...I'd like them to keep doing that).

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 11881288)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Memphis’ Justin Fuente, Houston’s Tom Herman &amp; Temple’s Matt Rhule top candidates for Mizzou, sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/espn">@ESPN</a></p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/665301227304013824">November 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11881578)

Would be big if they landed one of them, but I'm concerned that they won't pony up the money to land a high tier candidate.

They did go cheap recently and now we have Kermit destroying the BB team.

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 11878612)

The thing is though that words DO hurt, and it's arguably worse to collectively pretend that they don't.

And the thing about safe spaces that people ought to realize is that no one lives in a safe space. It's basically about having a therapeutic place -- a regular meeting, say -- where you can share your feelings with people who have similar experiences as you. Outside of a "safe space," people get mocked or belittled for sharing those feelings. People get confronted with "you're lying" or "that didn't happen" or "I don't believe you" or etc etc. by people who lack empathy or sympathy for those experiences. And to some degree that's fine. These students are in college after all, and they should expect their academic or political ideas to be questioned. But for certain disadvantaged groups (often we're talking about ethnic groups or LGBTQIA+ groups) they get A LOT more scrutiny than others, to the point of bullying and erasure. The idea of a safe space is to have a place where they can share without the constant challenging they get outside of the safe space. BY NO MEANS is an entire campus supposed to be a safe space; that's a misunderstanding of the concept.

"Microaggressions" shouldn't be a controversial term either. There's certain ways people get treated that aren't super confrontational but still serve to put down others, to treat them as lesser-than. Misgendering a person you know to be trans, for example. Or people walking across the street, clutching their purse, when a black person gets near. Or campus security letting white students walk into a building without checking ID but suddenly needing the young latina to produce a campus ID. These things aren't often blatantly hateful, but they wear on the people who experience them. I'd be surprised if anyone here doubts that these little prejudices happen in day to day life. Microaggressions is simply the word that's been decided upon to categorize these behaviors.

People are free to think that students these days are mentally weaker than in past generations because of their desire for these kinds of spaces and terms. I do think there's something to your guys' refrain that seeing oneself in constant victimhood can hold one back from the opportunities that ARE present. But I also think the same people suggesting that aren't being empathetic enough to the minority experience. It's simply emotionally harder to endure small daily prejudices than a lot of white Americans give it credit for. Ask your wives sometime about catcalling, and how much that wears down on them as women -- that's a thing that men can't fully understand too, because it simply doesn't happen to them. Similar thing.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11881731)

Holy Mother of God.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/13/li...-not-missouri/

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11881212)

Tom Herman of Houston is my no 1 target. New coach will have HC experience, and Herman is a little light there, but he's a future star, imo.

Justin Fuente is also a strong candidate.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11881731)

Holy Mother of God.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/13/li...-not-missouri/

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11881276)

Urban Meyer hand-picked Herman because he thought he was a brilliant offensive mind. Pretty high praise.



He's only got one year as a head coach, but he has recruiting ties in Texas, Florida and Ohio, and was a key recruiter for OSU in St. Louis as well.



It would be a home run hire. I think he's a star, and I think Mizzou would only be able to hang on to him until Urban Meyer retires... but I would like his chances to leave a better program than he found.



He's also good enough to hang on to the talent in the 15 and 14 classes and build quickly around that, if given a chance.