If your default position is smarmy asshole...then I hate to tell you...

argue your point or stay out of it.

I don't mind a spirited argument. I don't mind people disagreeing with me. I despise shit throwers.

Here's some of your quotes from earlier in the thread.

I absolutely realize that you've said the Chiefs should draft someone like Rashawn Slater and sign a FA center and guard:

But when you read all of those quotes above (and that's just a few of them, by the way) you absolutely shit on the idea of starting Fisher, Schwartz, Wylie, LDT, and Niang. Reiter is a free agent.

So yeah, either you DO want to replace pretty much the entire line or you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

You have to be fair about what you've said, dude. The reason the argument always ends up back here is because YOU said this stuff, not anybody else.

Yeah Veach mentioned fixing the lines, but with them projecting both tackles back, it would appear that taking an OL early would be a bench warmer. I’m fine with that if a stud falls to us but it isn’t likely.

Think about this: our OL struggled bc of injuries and opt outs. They were fine in week 1. Meanwhile our DL was mentioned as “a strength of the team” with quality depth and talent and they just did not perform. Wharton was awesome and Danna was a nice surprise as a rotational player but the unit overall was very underwhelming.

I think you can translate Veach’s comments down to these points:

-we have to rush the passer better
-we need depth on the OL and more flexibility
-we need to be stronger

LDT, Rankin, Fisher and Schwartz are all in contract years. We need to draft to replace a couple of these guys to go along with Niang.

If you're not going to bullshit me, currently all I'd like to see them do is sign Linsley/draft Humphrey and trade up a bit for Vera-Tucker. That gives you the versatility you'd need in all scenarios, regardless of if Fisher and Schwartz can return to form or not, and it gives you both bookends of the future with Tucker and Niang since I really don't see a pathway to Fisher being with us after this season. If he has complications with the Achilles it's really hard to factor him in to future plans and if he returns and plays to his usual level he'll price himself out of an extension with us, especially with the looming cap boom. As for veteran back ups I'd say with the cap cuts looming across the NFL there'll be a glut of competent veteran linemen without injury concerns as severe as Peters and Osemele.

Now that's absolutely fair.

I don't agree with trading up, especially not for Vera-Tucker, but it's a realistic plan.

I think even the people here I've had spirited arguments with would agree that I always argue in honest good faith. It's one reason I never use a pseudonym online.

I don't hate your plan. I'm not into trading up really, as I think we need to fill a few spots and should keep as many picks as possible. I'd rather trade down if possible and pick up another 3rd ideally.

But your plan is realistic and worth discussion.

Two things to keep in mind-

Reid typically drafts college OT's and then moves them where he projects them to play best. I don't know when the last drafted OL wasn't an OT in college regardless of where they played in the NFL. Clearly there are OT skills that Reid prefers regardless.

Also, Reid has said repeatedly that he believes in playing the best 5 guys. So drafting an OT early and playing them at G doesn't mean it's a waste or that they'll stay there next season, it just means they were one of the 5 best guys. So you might get an OT early who plays at G in 2021. That's okay and doesn't mean they won't take an OT spot in 2022 when Schwartz maybe retires or moves on for example. Or if Fisher's not good to go. Just saying.

You're asking for too much, Dude.

No NFL team can pay 5 guys at the top of the market at varying positions while having the greatest offensive line in the NFL.

There will always be concessions made by teams because it's impossible to pay everyone their market value and be under the salary cap.

Guys like Reiter and Wylie are fine when they're next to players like Fisher and Schwartz and at one time, LDT. But you're never going to have "5 Studs" on the offensive line unless you're willing to sacrifice more important positions such as DE, Safety, CB, WR and TE.

Well, that's why I advocate moving OL up in priority within the draft. You don't have to have #1's everywhere, but mid-round interior guys are going to have more upside than UDFA's typically speaking.

I know we're not going to be able to be the top line in football, but we clearly have some weak spots. A better line makes your skill talent better too, you know.

Hell I'm fine with Alegretti in there at LG if we upgrade at Center.

I just could not disagree more.

This team won 14 games with multiple backups at LG, RG and RT.

Really?

drafting a mid round offensive lineman seems like too steep for you?

when we have the best WR in football, best TE in football, and a #1 draft pick at RB?

yeah, and covid opt outs and injuries cost us a SB.

But what if the injury bug hits the line again next year?

Fisher was having back problems before the achilles and has missed time the last couple of seasons. Schwartz had been a rock, but he's over 30, 300 plus pounds, and with both back problems usually continue.

I'd rather have some better talent than Remmers, Reiter and Wylie.

I want another DE too, and we could sure use a #2 WR.

At least one of those can come in FA.

You've got the first couple rounds in the draft to look at that too.

I mean, to me, one one hand, it says that our skill position players were just that good.

And then there's the SB loss, in which we finally just had too many injuries on the line to compete, which negated all that skill position talent.

Seems to me to be a no-brainer to beef up the line a bit, especially with two 30 plus OT's coming off of season ending injuries and subpar OC and OG play.

A mid-round tackle, guard or center?

Unless something happens with Schwartz or Fisher's rehab, I don't really understand the need to draft yet another tackle in the first 3 rounds, which is something they did last year.

A late round guard or center? Sure, no problem, they need depth at those position or at least one guy versatile enough to play inside or at center.

But it just doesn't make any sense to me to draft a tackle when they're heading into the season with Fisher, Schwartz, Niang and most likely, a true veteran Swing Tackle, especially considering they could use their first three picks on starters, whether it's at Safety or CB or DE or LB or WR.

Those skill position guys are far more important, IMO, than drafting a tackle to sit on the bench.

I don't care what they say, either. He is a really good center, though. I'm not sure how that's up for debate.

No team will be able to withstand major injuries. The Packers lost their LT late in the year too, and it clearly cost them.

There are ample reason why the Chiefs should be looking at Oline in this draft, and the Super Bowl is not the mail reason.

1. Its a deep draft for offensive linemen (Meaning we probably don't need to invest a 1st round pick.
2. After 2021, we only have Allegretti (G), Durant (T), and Niang (T) under contract. So we need offensive linemen.
3. We are playing our playmakers a lot of money, so other positions need to remain cheap, drafting olinemen allow us to make minimal cap investments on that position group. Look at the money we don't spend at the corner position. Chiefs need to be cheap with oline and RB.

By all means, take a playmaker with out first pick, but after that the Chiefs have to be in the hunt for offensive linemen. As we currently don't have a center, and really only one longterm tackle. I don't think hunting for oline starting in the 2nd round should be frowned upon.

Really good point.

Well, it depends. There are OT's that will be drafted in the 2nd and third that are lower ceiling guys than others. And an OT drafted in rounds 2-4 won't necessarily sit the bench either as Reid always drafts/signs UDFA's that played OT in college and plays them wherever if they're one of the best 5.

Generally speaking I think an OL drafted anywhere in rounds 1-3 will be a starter. Just maybe not at their college position, which is perfectly fine and not indicative of where they end up later. Niang, as you remember, was slated to work at guard before the covid opt-out.

I'm not sure a Safety in the early rounds is a starter. Who gets the hook? Honey Badger? Thornhill? Are you looking to upgrade Sorensen? I'm in for that but I don't think you need a 1-3 rounder to do that. I like Deablo in the 4th personally.

CB? Well maybe, but I don't hate rolling with Sneed, Ward, Baker, Fenton and picking up the usual late round development guys we've been hitting on lately. If you draft a CB in round one, is he going to start immediately? I doubt it.

DE I'm all in on actually, in round one. And maybe another late as a development guy.

LB? no chance that guy starts unless he takes Gay's spot and it's too early to give up on Gay I think. Hitchens makes all the calls and runs that defense on the field. No rookie is going to do that.

WR? We need to restock some talent there for the future, but who's the last rookie to start for Reid? On this team? No way. They'd have packages, and would play some, but they're not going to take majority snaps until year 2. AND I like several guys slated to go in the 2-4th rounds just as much as the late first guys.

So no, I don't think it's a waste at all and I would fully expect any player taken in the first 3 rounds plays a significant amount in year one.

Would love to know your plan on the center position.

The choice seems to be between a high draft pick or a lot of cap money.

I just really disagree.

He's a fair pass protector. He's a terrible run blocker. That doesn't equal really good to me.

Hudson was really good. Morse was good too, just slightly less. Reiter is worse than Morse at everything but being available.

Very true.

I trust Veach and Reid, but if they pay Reiter a bunch of money I'll be pretty disappointed.

Same.

My fear is that it seems like something the Chiefs would do.

man, if we had a really good Center we'd be in decent shape on the line, really, with minimal further investment assuming they like Niang. A cheap vet swing tackle and you're in decent shape.

We, literally, have no idea if that is true. A huge part of what the center is tasked with doing involves making calls on the line. Sure, Pat assists with that, but the line calls tend to come from the center. There is also how well the center works with the QB, in that phase and others. Simply producing snaps consistently where the QB wants/likes them is a huge deal. Reiter appears to be really good at that, but so was Morse (somewhat surprisingly.)

I doubt Reiter is actually better than Morse. But, I'm also not sure he's a huge downgrade, either. The guy you draft or sign to replace him most likely will be. I assume that's what will happen and hope that we can make the best of it.

Where is that "better-than-Reiter-for-less-money" center coming from?

I guess the real discussion is this-

We can either throw cap dollars at the line, or we can draft young players. I'd like to get younger and cheaper there, while improving the talent level.

I don't think anybody wants to see a scenario where the SB happens again.

doesn't have to be LESS money. Just a better player. How about Linsley?

Or you could draft a Creed Humphrey.

Or you could draft a Humphrey/Josh Myers and hedge your bet with a cheap vet like Britt.

I think I would only draft a tackle if it was truly the best position there in the mid rounds. It’s not likely but it has happened before. As it stands I think you’ve got a very good 3rd tackle option in Niang.

Generally I think we need to bolster the depth on the OL and push for competition. Anywhere from rd 5 on doesn’t bother me. Get those Zach Fulton’s LDT’s and Allegretti’s. By all means load up. Ideally I’d like to replicate what we did in 2015 when we drafted Fulton and LDT in the later rounds.

This is Patrick’s last cheap year so we’re going to need to move off of guys like LDT (who is in a contract year anyway).

You know the more I think about this the more I believe they’ll keep Reiter. C is the only position I could see them drafting early on the OL unless a badass tackle somehow falls to us, but I believe that with no OTA’s and a weird training camp they will not want a starting C week 1. It’s just too much to learn with these type of limits.

I’m 100% with you on the weapons. At this point it’s 3rd receiving option and pass rusher as biggest needs in my eyes.

The Chiefs don't have any cap dollars to throw at the offensive line, so much like last year, the Chiefs will rely on cheap veteran lineman, like Remmers, to sign Vet Minimum deals.

The Chiefs are going into the season with Fisher, Allegretti, LDT, Schwartz, Niang, Rankin and Wylie.

They'll probably need three more quality backup type players, so most likely, one may come from the draft and two from cheap free agency. Or maybe they grab two guards late, as they did in 2014.

I just can't see them overhauling the entire offensive line in one offseason, especially given that there have been no parameters set in terms in in-building workouts, Minicamps and OTA's.

If it would cost 8-10m to bring Reiter back, I’d much rather spend 12-13 to upgrade to a guy that a better pass protector (Reiters strength) and be a massive upgrade in the running game. If we can bring Reiter back on a reasonable deal (4-5m per year) I think that may be a wise option to pursue...but he will likely get more than that as a rock solid pass protecting center.

This team has been weak in short yardage runs for years now and signing Linsley would fix that problem. It would also give us a center that can single block good DL to open up double teams elsewhere. That changes how Heck is able to design his schemes and how Andy calls plays.

I also mentioned how getting an elite center at 12-13m is a huge bargain. Center is a position that contracts haven’t caught up to on field value. Imo maybe I’m off there. OTs getting 20 and centers getting close to half that isn’t consistent with line impact.

In 2 years, I see top centers getting 15m+ per year and signing Linsley at top of the current market is a bargain.

I expect them to re-sign Reiter or sign a veteran free agent at center because I just can't see Reid throwing a 3rd round pick out there in Week 1.

With the salary cap pegged at least $15 million less than 2020, there's no doubt that the market will be flooded with talented guys that will be willing to sign a one year deal on the cheap.

It's difficult for me to believe teams will pay $10+ million for a center in a year in which the salary cap has been reduced by 8%.

Most teams are going to have major difficulty keep their best and highest paid players, so if there's an ever been a year in which talented guys want a job, the market will be flooded with guys that can step in and start Week 1 without issue.

Also, I think the numbers thrown around for Reiter are speculative at best and way off at worst.

I don't think there will be much of a market out there for a 30 year center, who's never made a Pro Bowl, let alone the All Pro list, asking in excess of $10 million per but I guess stranger things have happened.

While I think it would be nice to keep him, I just hope the Chiefs don't make Reiter their second highest paid offensive lineman.

again, I think you're confusing me with the 'get 5 new FA stud starters' group.

In addition to Fisher, Alegretti, LDT, Schwartz, and Rankin (no Wylie please unless he's a sub) I'd look at Peters as your swing tackle/sub and Osemele as depth assuming both pass physicals. Neither would be expensive. Both are good players if healthy. Obviously if they can't pass a physical you don't sign them. If you're not planning on either starting, but instead spelling a guy here and there that could work just fine.

And I'd like to draft a guy in the mid rounds, meaning 2nd-4th. And then maybe a guy late.

So we're really not talking about anything different other than you wouldn't take a guy in the mid rounds but would wait until late. The reason I'd prefer earlier is that theoretically the kid would be ready to play sooner if not right away.

I can't see anyone being upset if they drafted Humphrey, Myers or Meinerz by round 3. I guess you might be. I wouldn't.

Upset? Nah.

A waste of a valuable resource that could be spent at Safety, CB, LBer or WR?

Yes.

Wait, you want day 1 starters, but you don’t want a C at all on day 2?

I don’t see a rookie starting at LB, S, CB, or WR. I mean it’s possible, but not as likely as it would be if they drafted a C.

Dude, who the **** knows? All of this is just speculation, especially without The Combine and without Pro Day results.

The board changes constantly, right up until the day of the draft.

But yeah, I'd certainly rather see the Chiefs take someone other than a center, especially given that their last two 2nd round centers walked after 4 years.

But it's not up to me to make that decision.

I wasn’t being a smart ass. Just making sure I understood your stance.

I’m assuming that you want to re-sign Reiter then? Or move Allegretti to C?

name me one safety or linebacker that's a starter if drafted, and who they're replacing.

Tell me the last rookie WR that played majority snaps in an Andy Reid offense, and then tell me how successful that was.

I can give you three centers/interior offensive linemen that are immediate upgrades to Reiter.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love for this team to be able to draft a S, LB, CB, or WR on day 2 as opposed to a C.

Well, considering the Chiefs are in Nickel 70% of the time, replacing Dan Sorensen would be fantastic.

Desean Jackson had more than 1,000 yards from scrimmage as a 2nd round rookie in 2008.

Tyreek Hill had 860 yards from scrimmage and 9 TD's his rookie season.

There are very few positions on the Chiefs roster that can't be upgraded, so it comes down to positional value and for me, Center is near the bottom of that list.

I'd love to replace Sorensen; I don't think you need to do that all that early. A guy like Divine Deablo would be a good option and as late as round 4. Jacoby Stevens too.

Jackson was 13 years ago. Hill was indeed an immediate impact; but he's also a freak physically, and that's not something that will be available at #31.

As you neglected LB I'll assume we're in agreement that 1)no rookie is going to unseat Hitchens, as he's the signal caller, and 2) it's way too early to give up on Gay. And as you say, we're in nickel most of the time, so I'd say LB is nowhere near the top of the must have day 1 list.

And as for center being low down your list, I'd say that an above average player there makes Mahomes more effective, and Clyde more effective, and so makes a pretty big positive difference.

We can do it in the draft, or we can do it in FA, but we ought to do it.

That is pure speculation, especially considering that Hill went in the 5th round. Stephon Diggs was a 5th rounder as well.

The offensive line works as a team. Again, there is no way the Chiefs are going to have 5 All Pro lineman, so an average player in that position will be just fine, especially considering Allegretti will have had 9 Regular Season starts and 3 post season starts, while LDT will return to the right side.

Personally, I'd rather the Chiefs spend their 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks on immediate impact players, especially those players that "Play on an Island", not on a rookie center, especially if the NFL decides to forego Minicamps and OTA's.

The great Cesar Ruiz is a perfect example. The dude ****ing sucked ass his rookie year.

Ok, but we know why Hill went in the 5th round.

and I'm down with Alegretti and LDT at G. Especially if you put a better C in between. And I'm glad it sounds like Fisher and Schwartz are going to be good to go. And there's Niang just in case.

I just really don't understand this theory you have that Reid can trot whatever bullshit off the street he can stick in a uniform and scheme around it. I mean you said that before the Super Bowl, and were clearly wrong. I'd rather not have that happen again and somehow that's just crazy talk. A third round pick on a center? CRAZY.

And when I ask what positions a rookie is going to start in, you give me...Sorensen's spot. And maybe a WR. Even though there are two in 13 years that have shown anything near #2 numbers in Reid's offense.

But somehow that seems more reasonable than shoring up an obvious weakness.

I really don't get it. You still have to hold your own at the line of scrimmage.

Which is why I'm for a DE as our first pick.

tucker is a guy I’d have interest in, but not in with trading up and maybe not even at 31.

He’s not a given to be good at the NFL level at LT. He wasn’t good in the bowl game against good competition. It was pretty much the only time he faced top tier competition and he got ran.

He might drop significantly because of that game.

Agreed
Lots of teams out there with new QBs they just paid a mint for and the next step is to protect them. Not an abundance of top pass blocking centers available.

There are 12 centers making 9m and up in the league and Reiter is probably the second best option available.

They don't need to be all-pros, but they should all at least be of respectable starting quality. Come on, man.

Who can we take, realistically, at #31 that’s going to start day 1?

Probably just DE, WR, or OL.

A few DE's.

Any of 3 C's.

probably not starting, but a few WR's would probably play a lot in tailored packages. Same if they took a guy like Brevin Jordan.

Maybe a safety to take Sorensen's spot.

If Fisher or Schwartz aren't 100% there might be a couple or three OT's.

And that's about it that I see, really.

NFL.com listed one dream FA for each AFC team.

The Chiefs? Austin Reiter.

:facepalm:

Nah, not seeing a rookie S starting. If they run 5 men in the backfield I imagine it'd look like Ward and Fenton at the CB spots, Thornhill being used as the deep S, and Mathieu and Sneed being chess pieces to fill what Spags needs on the current play. Maybe Baker takes Fentons spot if he can play and learn the coverages quick enough.

Giants discussing moving on from Zeitler.

It'd be specifically to replace Sorensen, and that's it.

I'm not saying I'm for it; I'm not, at least not early in the draft. There are some bigger, faster safeties than Sorensen to be had later in the draft.

gross.

I'm going to be really disappointed if we throw a bunch of money at Reiter.

Why wouldn’t a dream FA signing be Linsley in that situation? ****ing stupid.

Absolutely.

The F.O./Reid didn't for Hudson or Morse

I'm not too worried about an early WR for some of the reasons mentioned, including that Reid WRs seldom see a significant percentage of snaps in their first year. I think Pringle plays the X this year and they draft for the future there.

As for Center prospects, you know who didn't suck as rookies? The ones taken 2 years ago in Elgton Jenkins and Erik McCoy. Jenkins got moved to guard because of Linsley but he probably goes there this year and McCoy has been a stud in New Orleans. Taking a 2nd round center, or even moving up for one like the Saints did for McCoy, would be high on my list of options.

Those guys went at 44 and 48, which is about where I think Myers and Humphrey will go.

In fact, this draft looks eerily similar in talent positional placement to that 2019 draft.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...uster-and-more

I think the Chiefs are going to be players in the first wave of free agency. I know it seems unlikely today since they're nearly $20 million over the cap, but GM Brett Veach won't have much problem restructuring deals to get them below the cap and with a little money to play with. If, as mentioned above, it turns out to be a buyer's market, watch for the Chiefs to continue to be aggressive.

I think that sounds like a recipe for disaster but that's just my opinion. Pringle hasn't shown me anything, ever.

The Chiefs took a center in the 2nd round back in 2012 and Reid allowed him to walk. They took Morse in the 2nd round back in 2019 and allowed him to walk. They brought in a former 7th rounder, who not only started in place of an injured Morse in 2018 but also started in both Super Bowls in 2019 and 2020.

I'm not unequivocally stating that the Chiefs won't take a center in the upcoming draft but with so many players expected to be cut in the coming the weeks due to the lowered salary cap, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they sign a guy off the streets or just bite the bullet and re-sign Reiter.

Then there's this from Albert Breer today:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/03/05/te...-first-time-gm

Lots of cuts are coming. Teams are waiting on the cap for that, and the league and union have waited, for a while, for the TV deals to get done to officially set it.

Once that happens, look out. The free-agent streets will teeming with talent.

I kind of have my sights set on Ethan Pocic from Seattle as a free agent. I think he could end up being a relative bargain and is a pretty solid player at both guard and center.

That said, I don't have much of an issue with the Chiefs burning a 2nd every 4 years on a center. At least it's one position in the 2nd they've actually hit on routinely.

that would be great.

FA's are more expensive, but you know what they can do at the NFL level.

They could easily bring in a guy like Linsley if they give him a low first year cap hit. It instantly shores up the middle of the line and we’re about to start paying less money for at least one of our tackles if Niang is the future at LT or RT.

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There goes that pipe dream some had

Meh. I’d rather have Linsley.

How and why the **** are they paying him more now?

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From all indications, the market is going to be flooded with high end talent and since most teams will be close to the cap already, many, if not most of these players will need to take cheap deals this year in order to get a big contract in 2022.

This plays to the Chiefs advantage because if you're only getting a 1 year Vet Minimum or near minimum deal, why not play for the team that's been to the last two Super Bowls and is favored for a third?

This is exactly why I'm not advocating the Chiefs go All-In on the offensive line this year because they will have cheap but proven options in Free Agency.

I agree with you but I think that works against WRs. You’re going to get money next year if you statistically have a good season. Why come here where you’re easily the third target at best? It’s not to say that it won’t happen but it might be hard to get any of the top WRs to take a deal here.

Yeah, for sure.

But it also opens the door for the Chiefs to take a WR in the 1st or 2nd and supplement the back end with experienced wide receivers without breaking the bank.

If the Chiefs can get a guy like Nelson Agholor in the door on a cheap 1 year deal, they would have a solid, possession receiver that can play 16 games and would be a great compliment to Kelce, Hill, CEH and Hardman. He's also played in a similar system his entire career, so the transition would be nearly seamless. I'm sure there are other guys out there that would be great fits as well.

Watkins could have been a superstar with the Chiefs but he couldn't stay healthy, so I'm sure that other guys will see that potential and jump.

there were rumors that Schwartz was planning on playing out his contract and retiring even before his injury.

I expect him too. Niang is his replacement, I’m assuming. That’s why I’m all for finally paying a good center. Our tackles are going to be getting cheaper.

I understand that stance but you're essentially kicking the can down the road. With two OT's north of 30 and both now showing injury issues (remember Fisher was having back problems too prior to the achilles) a 30 yr old mediocre center that's a FA, LDT is 30, often injured...I mean, you're going to need to get younger. Alegretti and Niang is a start, but we should be considering 2022 and on.

I think we should absolutely be in on cheap vets on 1 year deals, I just think we should be restocking the cupboard with young talent with actual upside. mid round OL talent is a good use of resources when you have the NFL's best QB, WR, TE, and a first round RB.

I would absolutely pay that guy. You do that and you can literally open up your entire draft board essentially.

I don't know that I'm necessarily on board with signing Linsley to a long-term contract.

He's had some minor back issues in recent years but they have been a recurring thing. He's also turning 30 this summer. He's good, really good, but I don't know if I'd sign up for that.

That's kind of my problem with Pocic too, but he's 5 years younger and should be half the price.

I think this is going to happen. We’ve now had back-to-back outstanding WR classes and with money being an issue I think that there could be some excellent deals available for the 2nd tier free agents like Brett mentioned.

I think we’ll be looking for a vet DE at a fair price too. Maybe in that 2nd wave. Someone like Ryan Kerrigan for example.

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Whoever created that table has absolutely no ****ing clue when it comes to tiers. Who the **** is giving Solomon Thomas a mid-tier anything and how is he even a modest fit?

Swap around Bowser, Golden, and Thomas for sure. I'd have to look at more. Not sure how Hendrickson isns't in the high fit/high price tier.

Yes, exactly.

Despite the fact that the Chiefs can restructure guys to get under the cap, 2021 isn't the year to be signing guys to long term deals.

In addition to that, there's no Combine this year, either, so while teams will obviously do their best to project this upcoming draft class, there's absolutely no doubt that teams will miss on guys they think are a "Sure Thing" while hitting on players unexpectedly.

This is a year in which the Chiefs should "play it safe", keep as many starters as they can, sign cheap free agents and let the board come to them.

This is definitely not the year to be chasing positions, despite what all of the mockers out there believe.

Im just glad i didnt have to say it.