Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17362849)

Justin Madubuike is 2nd team All Pro

Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17362840)

Baltimore didn't win one game without Lamar last year. Not one.

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17362620)

Lawrence Taylor and Ronnie Lott laugh in your general direction.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17362822)

Ok, let's get back to talking about the actual game. My Breakdown:

Offense

QB- Chiefs
RB-Chiefs
WR-Chiefs
TE-Chiefs
O-line-Chiefs

Defense:

D-line- Chiefs
LB-Chiefs
Corners-Chiefs
Safeties-Chiefs

ST

Punter-Chiefs
Kicker-Chiefs

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17362852)

Who?

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17362828)

This is a Chiefs board. It's where we talk about Chiefs stuff. I guess that may have slipped your attention. I'll bet there is a Ravens board where you can talk about Ravens stuff, but you're welcome to post here too. Don't get too upset if people that came here to talk about the Chiefs don't particularly see things the same way as you though. It's a board where people came to talk about the Chiefs.

Message Board. For talking about the Chiefs.

Chiefs.

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17362728)

Anyone else rooting 4 KC?

Or just me?

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17362822)

Ok, let's get back to talking about the actual game. My Breakdown:

Offense

QB- Chiefs
RB-Chiefs
WR-Chiefs
TE-Chiefs
O-line-Chiefs

Defense:

D-line- Chiefs
LB-Chiefs
Corners-Chiefs
Safeties-Chiefs

ST

Punter-Chiefs
Kicker-Chiefs

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362833)

Only on Planet Chiefs is Ray Lewis not the GOAT ML, Ed Reed isn't the GOAT safety, and Justin Ticker isn't the GOAT kicker. Let me guess Eric Reid is the GOAT Safety, Willie Gay is the GOAT ML, and Harrison Butker is the GOAT Kicker?

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17362859)

mf just making up names now lmao

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17362860)

I was here to talk about the Chiefs.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17362775)

You can link me to 100 articles that we can't read without paying and you won't convince me of that.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17362851)

Sounds like me up until 5 years ago.

See if he drinks beer...

Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17362213)

very well said....

come and visit purpleflock.com

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17362876)

I've known a few people who swear they only need a few hours of sleep/night... sometimes I wish I could do that, but even 20 years ago I wouldn't be able to do that for more than a day or two without turning into a zombie.

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 17362846)

tap out accepted.

yet, you're still here. why?

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17362876)

I've known a few people who swear they only need a few hours of sleep/night... sometimes I wish I could do that, but even 20 years ago I wouldn't be able to do that for more than a day or two without turning into a zombie.

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17362863)

Ok now this guy knows what he's talking about about!!!

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17362884)

I can do 4-5 hours off a well rested night but if I go 4-5 hours for 2 or 3 days straight I feel awful.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17362888)

TBH, I'd probably include...

HC: Chiefs
OC: Chiefs
DC: Chiefs
Equipment Managers: Chiefs
Pregame Wardrobe: Chiefs
Color Scheme: Chiefs
Wives/Girlfriends in Attendance: Chiefs


JMHO.

Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17362894)

I’m just going to go ahead and be honest here -

Cheerleaders: Ravens

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17362860)

I was here to talk about the Chiefs. In the context of their matchup with the Ravens. I have no issue with people seeing things a different way. As I said earlier, I think that’s healthy. And I would be happy to address the many @s. But it has seemed to turn into “what are you doing here?” and “don’t post.” And not from one outlier. There are some cool people here who I would like to answer, but if the sentiment is that I should go away simply because I’m a Ravens fan then say less.

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17362329)

And like a fly to a bag of shit, I know you've been waiting for your opportunity to trash Baltimore. Go off, king.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17361639)

Let’s translate your Lamar Apologist babble…

“Factor in Lamar’s rushing yardage because he’s a glorified running back”.

Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17362840)

Baltimore went 2-4 last year without Lamar, but didn't win any games in 2021. Not one.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362857)

Lawrence Taylor was an Edge Rusher so he and Ray played 2 different positions and Ronnie Lott was a box safety and Ed was a FS. So they're probably laughing at you for not knowing your positions.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17362876)

I've known a few people who swear they only need a few hours of sleep/night... sometimes I wish I could do that, but even 20 years ago I wouldn't be able to do that for more than a day or two without turning into a zombie.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17362639)

You have said yourself it’s a team game. Mahomes cannot control the mistakes of his teammates, like Mecole Hardman fumbling away 7 points last week. How many people hold a negative view of Tom Brady for failing to make the Playoffs in 2002 right after winning a championship? He also failed to win a ring in 15 of 22 seasons while losing to the likes of Ryan Tannehill and Nick Foles.

Chiefs looked dead in the water on Christmas Day. As a guy with more pessimistic views, I was actually somewhat concerned they would lose their final 2 games and miss the Playoffs entirely. I think it’s pretty amazing the Chiefs got their act together enough to make it to the Conference title game. The Ravens are a great TEAM and should win the game.

Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17362894)

I’m just going to go ahead and be honest here -

Cheerleaders: Ravens

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17362907)

Hard to argue there. I think one of the Chiefs girls below might make it on the Ravens squad.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/CBEE...0061820903.jpg

https://blog.thelineup.com/hs-fs/hub..._1280_1024.jpg

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17362907)

Hard to argue there. I think one of the Chiefs girls below might make it on the Ravens squad.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/CBEE...0061820903.jpg

https://blog.thelineup.com/hs-fs/hub..._1280_1024.jpg

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17361895)

Lamar Jackson, in fact, had the opportunity to try to play through a lower leg injury and elevate his team.

He chose not to play on one leg.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362906)

But it's ok to hold the 2019 playoff Loss against Lamar Even though he had 500 yards of total offense including 350 passing. He had multiple guys drop multiple passes and the defense couldn't stop Derrick Henry. They also hold a playoff loss against him in 2018 when he took over for Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson couldn't be more different QBs but he took that team from a below .500 team to a division winner in 7 games. Do you see the hypocrisy in that

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362906)

But it's ok to hold the 2019 playoff Loss against Lamar Even though he had 500 yards of total offense including 350 passing. He had multiple guys drop multiple passes and the defense couldn't stop Derrick Henry. They also hold a playoff loss against him in 2018 when he took over for Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson couldn't be more different QBs but he took that team from a below .500 team to a division winner in 7 games. Do you see the hypocrisy in that

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362803)

Only on Planet Chiefs does the Bully lose and continue to be the Bully. I seriously got you guys losing and still proclaiming yourselves Champions.

Originally Posted by PurpleOrange (Post 17362557)

For me at least it would have to take something really awful (13 seconds) to be devastated by a loss Sunday. Losing at home in 2006 when we Peyton Manning and Colts scored 0 touchdowns yet the Ravens still lost was brutal, the Lee Evans/Billy Cundiff game were brutal. We lose a close game that could go either way I'll tip my hat. Disappointed yes, devastated, probably not.

Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17362913)

he had a ligament injury and couldn't play through it. you try playing through a grade 3 ligament injury

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17362588)

What exactly went wrong for KC this year? Your GM constructed a mid roster by not getting any receivers? And that’s hand waved away? You did that.

Also suggesting that a guy is in the GOAT conversation while also explaining away how a loss as acceptable is incongruent. If he’s the GOAT, he wins this game. He beats the DVOA darlings with the MVP in their house. If he doesn’t win that game, it matters. As a non-Chiefs fan, I’ll tell you right now that I won’t think of him the way people here want me to. Because people here aren’t saying he’s very good—they’re saying he is the greatest to ever do it. Then prove it no matter the circumstances.

If you construct a mid roster and the baby goat loses, you’re not who people on this board are telling me you are. You don’t have the Pats’ cache, not even close. You might think you’re “on track,” but you’re not there just as much as no one here will give credit to Lamar/the Ravens for being “on track” for a Super Bowl when it’s all said and done. You have to actually do it in games like this. Defend your title.

Spinning this narrative that this game is a win/win for the Chiefs should be beneath you if you think these guys are who you say they are.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362906)

But it's ok to hold the 2019 playoff Loss against Lamar Even though he had 500 yards of total offense including 350 passing. He had multiple guys drop multiple passes and the defense couldn't stop Derrick Henry. They also hold a playoff loss against him in 2018 when he took over for Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson couldn't be more different QBs but he took that team from a below .500 team to a division winner in 7 games. Do you see the hypocrisy in that

Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17362913)

he had a ligament injury and couldn't play through it. you try playing through a grade 3 ligament injury

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17362932)

Lamar stat padded his first career playoff game against the Chargers too. He's great at not getting blown out in the box score even in games that were never close.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17362675)

It's a team game. Mahomes could play a perfect game and still lose. His receivers have proven it this year. Hardman damn near gave the game away last week on a fumble at the Buffalo goal line to lose 7 points. Hardman had another fumble inside the Buffalo 10 yard line that potentially cost 4 points for the Chiefs. And Justin Watson had a terrible drop on a perfect 3rd down pass by Mahomes that would have setup KC with 1st down at the Buffalo 10 yard line. The Watson drop potentially cost them 4 points, but at least Watson recovered Hardman's first fumble and saved the team 3 points on that play.

In addition to the receiver mistakes last week, the Chiefs defense got pushed around for 3 quarters of the game and Mahomes was on the sideline for most of it while Buffalo ran 63% of the game clock. When Mahomes actually had a chance to touch the football, he torched Buffalo. I could easily see a scenario in this Baltimore game where Mahomes is great, but gets let down by both the defense and receivers.

Defense gets their butts kicked. Receivers fumble and drop the ball. It's the QB's fault? And don't try to lie by saying Brady overcame that shit. No he didn't. 15 years out of 22 years he failed to win a ring. Lost to shitty QB's like Ryan Tannehill. Failed to make the Playoffs in 2002 right after winning a championship. QB's need help from their teammates, it's really that simple.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362969)

I know it's a team game. Its your compares here that keeps saying Lamar chikes in the playoffs while ignoring g everything else.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362969)

I know it's a team game. Its your compares here that keeps saying Lamar chikes in the playoffs while ignoring g everything else.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362969)

I know it's a team game. Its your compares here that keeps saying Lamar chikes in the playoffs while ignoring g everything else.

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17362865)

Will Shields,Brian Waters, and Tony Richardson owned Ray-Ray on MNF, there's a reason why Lewis isn't seen as an all-time great especially playing with HOFers on that Defense.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362906)

But it's ok to hold the 2019 playoff Loss against Lamar Even though he had 500 yards of total offense including 350 passing. He had multiple guys drop multiple passes and the defense couldn't stop Derrick Henry. They also hold a playoff loss against him in 2018 when he took over for Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson couldn't be more different QBs but he took that team from a below .500 team to a division winner in 7 games. Do you see the hypocrisy in that

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17362937)

It was diagnosed as Grade 2.

I'm no elite athlete so couldn't do it.

Luckily, the QB I support can. Played through a Grade 2 high ankle sprain for 2 1/2 games and won a Super Bowl.

It's nice to have a QB who will go all out for his team to win.

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17362996)

Been slow at work today and I’ve checked in more than usual.. And all these Raven fans were posting all day long… Do you guys have jobs?? Live on the street???

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17362917)

Lamar turned the ball over 3 times in that game (2 INT's, 1 fumble) all by himself.

We just gonna ignore that?

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17363001)

2 of those int were right off the hands of a wr. Mark Andews and Willie Snead to be precise.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17363004)

I don’t know if Ray Lewis is the best middle linebacker in NFl history - you could make cases for Singletary or Lambert or Nietscke - but I know this:

He’s certainly the best NFL MLb to get away with murder and have everyone act like it didn’t happen.

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17362970)

chikes

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17363004)

I don’t know if Ray Lewis is the best middle linebacker in NFl history - you could make cases for Singletary or Lambert or Nietscke - but I know this:

He’s certainly the best NFL MLb to get away with murder and have everyone act like it didn’t happen.

Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17362913)

he had a ligament injury and couldn't play through it. you try playing through a grade 3 ligament injury

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17362918)

I do see all of that. Lamar didn’t exactly play his best in that Tennessee game. Some of that loss falls on him. Some of it falls on his teammates and coaches for sure. They were much better prepared this time around after the bye week, which seemed to take the wind out of Baltimore’s sails in the Tennessee game 4 years ago. They headed into the Playoffs at the end of 2019 regular season looking unbeatable. Crushed Belichick & Brady on Sunday Night Football late in the season. And then something happened in the bye week. They came out very flat in that Tennessee game and could never dig themselves out of the hole. Harbaugh figured out something in the bye week this year to have the guys better prepared.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17362924)

A) Diagnosed Grade 2 - I don't think rounding up is appropriate when discussing an injury.

B) What exactly do you think a 'severe high ankle sprain' would qualify as?

Your boy didn't want to risk his bag playing on a balky knee. Our guy ran for 25 yards on a bad wheel to win us a Super Bowl.

Potayto, Potahto...

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17363001)

2 of those int were right off the hands of a wr. Mark Andews and Willie Snead to be precise.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17363014)

Did you watch that game? What happened was They were marching on the Tits. Lamar threw a pass to Andrews in the redzone that went right off of Andrews hands into a defenders hands. A few plays later Titns score. A little while later defense couldn't stop Henry amd he gets into the red area. A Henry Jump has to Hunter Henry later the Tits where up no multiple scores. Up until this season the biggest Flaw in Lamars game was feeling he had to do everything. The FO didn't do him any favors and giving him weapons so he began to press and the TOs happened.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17363014)

Did you watch that game? What happened was They were marching on the Tits. Lamar threw a pass to Andrews in the redzone that went right off of Andrews hands into a defenders hands. A few plays later Titns score. A little while later defense couldn't stop Henry amd he gets into the red area. A Henry Jump has to Hunter Henry later the Tits where up no multiple scores. Up until this season the biggest Flaw in Lamars game was feeling he had to do everything. The FO didn't do him any favors and giving him weapons so he began to press and the TOs happened.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362991)

Ray Lewis

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17363014)

Did you watch that game? What happened was They were marching on the Tits. Lamar threw a pass to Andrews in the redzone that went right off of Andrews hands into a defenders hands. A few plays later Titns score. A little while later defense couldn't stop Henry amd he gets into the red area. A Henry Jump has to Hunter Henry later the Tits where up no multiple scores. Up until this season the biggest Flaw in Lamars game was feeling he had to do everything. The FO didn't do him any favors and giving him weapons so he began to press and the TOs happened.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363018)

So we're going to ignore anything he did in the score getting out of hand but give him full credit for garbage time stats he racked up AFTER it did so...

Okay.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363006)

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17363036)

The biggest flaw in Lamar's game is passing.

Lamar had a 1.5 INT rate in 2019. His INT rate this year? 1.5%.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17363041)

I studied long with the wise master Vlad Logicslav. He taught me many posting powers that some would find … unnatural.

But they serve me well.

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17363036)

The biggest flaw in Lamar's game is passing.

Lamar had a 1.5 INT rate in 2019. His INT rate this year? 1.5%.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363045)

Eh - Tebow never threw picks because he was too damn inaccurate to do so.

Interceptions are more about decisionmaking than anything and in that regard, I do think Jackson has improved. Hell, his ball placement has made its way to average.

He is a better passer than he was in 2019. And a 1.5 int rate is actually pretty damn good. It's worse than the best we've seen from Patrick (2020 was pretty pinpoint in that regard) but better than his worst (frankly, this season).

Int's aren't any sort of bugaboo for Jackson. It's small windows. He doesn't have the hose to fire one into a window as it closes. He doesn't read defenses at a high enough level to 'throw guys open' as they're making their breaks with regularity.

Sticky coverage will give him a lot of problems. He needs to get DBs guessing as he runs around to create openings. He needs to have confusion in the secondary because of play actions and what not. He's just not a guy that's going to routinely beat good coverage like Mahomes can do.

But really, very little of that is going to show up in stats because he generally doesn't have to do that. His legs create space in the defensive secondary for the reasons I suggested above.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362806)

nah d9nt need a cookie I was told I could talk when we drafted a GOAT, i gues I can talk now

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17363063)

Syntax Genius...