I don't trust him.. I think Thuney is the clear choice..

Of course its a problem. But at the end of the day its a guard. Who cares as long as LT is the best it can be. Interior offensive line matters little on a passing team.

This is kinda why I leaned against Humphries when it was all said and done.

More than likely we were going to get a result that said "idk, maybe he can do it, maybe not." The only way you'll find out is if you start him in the playoffs, and at that point it might be a game-altering horrific mistake.

I'm not trying to prop up Thuney and Caliendo as great, but we've run out of time. We don't know what we have with Humphries, but we do know what we have with Thuney.

LMAO man some of you just won't stop no matter what proof is presented to you

Humphries
Derangement
Syndrome

He gave Reid and Heck all the reasons he needed to, to get the playoff starts... bet me on it, you win and you get all my considerable casino cash deal?

I wonder if Morris could play LG or if Caliendo is the clear choice? …assuming Thuney at LT.

He was awful in the second half today. Cannot be trusted.

He's a backup.

I will bet all my casino cash he doesn't start in the Divisional.

You gotta deal, so mote it be

The offense was hardly on the field the first half and he still looked gassed the second half.

I’m surprised you weren’t convinced. When he was in there with Thuney (although briefly) it immediately looked better.

It was hard to evaluate also because Wentz held onto the ball too long at times too.

Dude was an absolute F in the second half.

It needs to be Thuney at LT for the playoffs. STFU about "we need him back inside for the run game". It's a dumb take. This offense goes through Pat.

Yeah I mean Im undefeated in Chiefsplanet bets and if one of you wants to bet real money that Thuney won't be starting at LT in the divisional. Well you let me know.

Yup. The drop off was monumental. He can't be trusted.

We also know what we have in Caliendo. And it was shite.

Moreover, in 2 of the 3 games Thuney played at LT he wasn't any better than Humphries was today.

Given that we're probably going to play the Chargers in the Divisional, I think I'd go Thuney. We can play a pretty tight, mistake free offense and win that game. The only way we lose it is if we turn the ball over.

But at the same time, that will firmly close the door on Humphries and I think we just might need more than that in the AFCCG and SB.

It's just a much harder decision than some are making it, IMO. Thuney has definitely not been the rock wall some are suggesting at LT and Caliendo has looked real bad the last two weeks.

As a couch warrior I want to see Humphries. If I were in Andy's chair, I'm not sure I could talk myself into it.

Oh after today, if anyone thinks it's anyone but Thuney they are high.

No one knows what you are talking about.

No one said Thuney was Oralndo Pace, but for 3 games he was MILES ahead of anything Humphries showed today. Not even close.

The offense had its best games with Joe at LT. That's enough.

YOU EGG SUCKING FOOLS WILL SOON LEARN :old:

No, he’s absolutely spot on. How do you think those three games go with Wentz in there holding the ball for 5 seconds?

The safe play is Thuney, but it isn’t going to cut in the big games. If we want to have any semblance of a running game back, you have to have Thuney at LG.

Yeah, I'm with you on Thuney not being all that some are making him out to be at LT. That said, yeah I believe he'd get us there in the playoffs. I don't like what we have next to him at LG though and don't feel any confidence behind Caliendo whatsoever.

I saw enough from Humphries to think he'll be okay and you have Thuney next to him instead of a scrub. Outside of a few snaps, Humphries was actually burying Bonitto in the turf most of the game and his weakness is speed rushers. He has another two weeks to keep knocking the rust off. I'd roll with Humphries at LT and Thuney LG but that's me. I guess I'm not as scared as some.

https://x.com/theonlydyl_/status/187...198972974?s=61

No. We don't.

And "in the big games???" What? It was a three game stretch where he faced the best pass rushers in the NFL.

Dude just sit down.

My GUESS is that Humphries showed enough that they'll give him a shot next to Thuney for the first game, but he'll have a short leash. If he starts whiffing like he did in the second half, he's done.

It’s definitely not a perfect scenario either way but sacks on Mahomes have been way down since moving Thuney to LT. Patrick has looked more comfortable than he’s been all season. Maybe it’s playcalling to ge the ball out quicker but Thuney has looked improved each game.

Yes…he got good reps, it will give Andy film to open up the gameplay even more.

I will be shocked if he isn’t the starter going forward.

Is there a source for that other than "fatty patty" on Twitter? I'm not denying it, but I haven't seen that claim before. I'd love to see the actual ratings.

You can go look it up. He gave up no sacks. He also wasn't getting a bunch of help like many on here claimed either but I didn't save that stat link.

Be prepared to be shocked because it ain't gonna be Humphries at LT come playoff time.

Well see. Reid has forgotten more than you or I will ever learn in a lifetime about line play.

I would agree with this.

LMAO short lease in the playoffs when we're trying to 3peat???

When we have won all these games by 1 score?

We don't have margins for error.

We aren't testing out left tackles in the playoffs.

It's gonna be Thuney

Yeah, I guess that's where we separate from some folks.

I mean I get that he had some bad reps but he had some damn good ones as well. Reps that Thuney doesn't have in his bag, IMO. Like you, I saw a guy that was really handling Bonitto at times.

That's SUPER encouraging. And I think some people just watched him waiting for the bad rep that allows them to discard him while ignoring the things he did pretty well.

But he did fall off in the second half. Maybe that was the LG next to him but it may have been fatigue and that's awfully disconcerting.

That's where things get murky.

I love how the attached video shows him playing at LG and then if you scroll down someone shows a picture of a 2-on-1 with Thuney at LT. It's a bit amusing.

The way I rationalize it is, would you be okay losing with Thuney or Humphries at LT?

Personally, if we lose with Thuney, I'll believe we lost with our best possible OL situation out there. I can live with that.

I absolutely cannot live with losing with Humphries when I can trust my own eyes and see the offense performing at it's highest level when Thuney was there at LT.

If there was more time to flesh out this idea with Humphries, I'd be on board. But we are sadly very much out of time.

You start Humphries and gameplan around what you know

Dude is Donovan Smith level so you roll with it until you can’t

You cited that dipshit, completely discredited tweet and you're telling others to 'sit down'.

Do your own homework or shut the **** up. Because that guys a goddamn moron.

I spoke directly to it the last time it was posted.

It is a complete fabrication.

PFF ratings are paywalled. I can't just look them up.

That was my hunch. Thanks.

We've already beaten each one of these playoff teams outside of Buffalo and they don't have the pass rush to take advantage of our line issues.

We know how we match up with each one of these teams already and the smarter choice will be made. The game won't be close.

KAW! KAW!

I don't disagree that Thuney was serviceable at LT but serviceable doesn't mean it's the best use of all of our OL resources. If Humphries plays serviceable and Thuney plays his normal self at LG, that's a much bigger win. Thuney providing help on stunts or when he's uncovered to Humphries goes a lot further than Caliendo struggling to help Thuney. I just think there's more to this decision than if Thuney "might" be marginally better at LT right this second.

I think this is really the best argument for Thuney.

He DID improve over the three games in question.

He was flat out bad against Cleveland, regardless of what people try to say. By Pittsburgh he was probably above average. I wouldn't say 'good' but he did get better every week.

That's worth something.

The game won’t be close? Wut?

Honestly, I'm just glad the 2s got a full game of reps to see what they do/don't have.

Humphries gives us a high ceiling, so I'd prefer they at least give it a shot, but if he's struggling early just go back to Thuney :shrug:

There's a good chance Watson will be back, we appear to have solved our line issues, and we've added 1 if not 2 WR's since playing these teams.

Baltimore and Buffalo are both less talented than last year. We won't play either one in the divisional.

You really think Denver and the Chargers are within 7 pts of this team in the playoffs?

No...

I believe we’re the favorites in every post season game but what you posted is pure fantasy

Yeah - it just never even passed the sniff test. Found my posts from the other thread below.

It's just made up from whole cloth. Really stupid.

We have both a better offense and defense than last year. Both Baltimore and Buffalo lost talent this season.

I'm not sure which of those points you think is arguable. Buffalo's D is complete bottom 10 ass. Raven's D is unbelievably weak vs the pass and rely on the pass rush to get home. Flowers is hurt and may not even play next week.

We beat Baltimore by a toe

Lost to the Bills

Beat Denver by a blocked FG

Beat the Chargers by 2 then 7

I like the Chiefs but not sure what you’re watching to say the games won’t be close

The current roster is completely different...

Except the rest of us have watched these games and noticed each game that the whole line got better in pass pro when he was at LT.

It's gonna be Thuney. Humphries was ASS in the second half today. Looked absolutely gassed.

What's really stupid is your take that we're gonna start him at left tackle after 1 decent half of football all season.

Put the f'n crack pipe down

When you post fabricated data, it doesn't exactly give you much credibility.

The whiffs are the main issue. Thuney doesn't seem to do that. He may lose, but he loses slower than any other LT on the roster. And Patrick has been playing with more confidence since he's been there, very possibly for that reason. I really want Humphries to be the guy, but if they start Thuney I'll at least feel like our floor on protection is high.

Sure but you don’t think the games will be close??

Because that’s what I’m disputing despite believing we’ll win them all

If he’s the starter. I think he needs to get in a high humidity setting and run some sprints with Watson the next two weeks. His conditioning is off and most of the bad play was in the second half because of it .

Humphries had a 15.6 pass block grade today. Allowed 2 sacks, 3 hurries and 5 pressures in 24 reps. That is ****ing atrocious.

The good news is that if Humphries starts at LT, Thuney starts at LG and can completely handle the inside.

I have to think that's the best possibility, but who knows.

Lamar went into a mini tailspin after losing to the Chiefs. His head is a available for coitus

I know dick about professional football player conditioning, but I would think you aren't making a very impactful difference in stamina in two weeks. Especially considering how little time he was on the field before his play declined. If there's some other explanation, ok, but if it really was just "he got gassed" that's probably the end of the debate at this point. I mean I'd be happy to be wrong.

Suamatia played in 24 pass block snaps at LT today and had a 60.4 pass block grade. He allowed 1 pressure and 1 hurry. He way out performed Humphries.

Won't matter for the playoffs (hopefully) but that is really good to hear.

DJ and the offense was hardly on the field the first half and they were mostly 3 and outs.. Then he was noticeably slower the second half.. Sorry I just don't trust him in the 4th quarter of a close game when its 3rd down and long..

Really?

I don't think he played a single snap at LT.

I only ever saw him at LG.

Uh yea Kingsley played LG.

Looks like Seth is taking a close look, so I'll look for that article. Initial indication is the dude got gassed. In some ways that's encouraging, but it's a bit much to expect he'll be in dramatically better shape in 2 weeks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The correct answer is one FWIW. 2nd half looking like it&#39;s gonna get tough though.</p>— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1876064199790760183?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(Narrator) it was tough. <br><br>Writing tonight, will post tomorrow.</p>— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1876065919392510215?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I find it a little interesting that they have a lot of young players reps and Ethan Driscoll got none, interesting he got carried on the 53 all year and didn't even get run like Nourzad and Hanson.

According to who, again?

Impossible people said in the game thread he was playing good

Seth Keysor is doing a write up on Humphries and 1st half in 13 pass block snaps he had 1 loss.

Said 2nd half was rough but won’t disclose the data until tomorrow.

Edit shit DaFace beat me to it.

So conditioning is an issue, not at all surprising.

Saw Humphries shoveling snow today for over an hour and he went as fast as he could to get a zone 2 aerobic workout in...since the gym is closed. Wore his workout watch and everything lol

He went waaay into the street and was carrying the snow way back into his yard. Then kept going over places that barely had any snow. His neighbors had to think he was losing it.

He was until the last rep of the first half. Second half was ugly

Easier protecting midget over giant

Yeah first half was "solid". The second half he literally fell off the map. Could barely get out of his stance without getting beat.

I think he was out there at RT tackle at the end of the game..

He’s not in game shape. It’s clear as day

It's too bad the NFL doesn't have a minor league. He'd be a prime candidate for being sent down for a conditioning stint.

And he'll never be until he gets some playing time

Someone was asking for advanced PFF stats and I think I posted what you’re looking for in a different thread

Thuney's Pass Blocking Score for those 3 games at LT were 43.5, 63.5, & 68.2 whereas he was consistently in the high 80s as a LG. This provides support for the theory others have presented that we should let Humphries start at LT next game and monitor him closely.

He's been sidelined with a hammy. He has 2 weeks to get in better shape which can/will happen. First half is a good indicator.