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rabblerouser 05-23-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14985626)
Matt Moore is #2 best QB in the league

Didn't he retire again?

BWillie 05-23-2020 03:49 PM

If there is one thing we know, QB Rating doesnt always tell the story. It CAN but if your QB is a gutless piece of shit like Carr or Alex Smith its just an inflated stat for conservative QBs.

NWTF 05-23-2020 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14986129)
If there is one thing we know, QB Rating doesnt always tell the story. It CAN but if your QB is a gutless piece of shit like Carr or Alex Smith its just an inflated stat for conservative QBs.

I agree on that. Guys like Carr and Smith look good on QBR and other stats that dont involve winning games when it counts, but I couldnt take Cam over Brady like you suggested. I hate Cam and I hate Brady, for different reasons but given the same weapons you gotta take Brady. We dont even know what to expect from Cam at this point, which is why hes still unsigned.

Mahomes_Is_God 05-23-2020 10:53 PM

You have Mahomes ranked too low. List is garbage.

ThaVirus 05-24-2020 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14986129)
If there is one thing we know, QB Rating doesnt always tell the story. It CAN but if your QB is a gutless piece of shit like Carr or Alex Smith its just an inflated stat for conservative QBs.

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 14986425)
I agree on that. Guys like Carr and Smith look good on QBR and other stats that dont involve winning games when it counts, but I couldnt take Cam over Brady like you suggested. I hate Cam and I hate Brady, for different reasons but given the same weapons you gotta take Brady. We dont even know what to expect from Cam at this point, which is why hes still unsigned.

I think you guys are thinking of passer rating.

QBR weighs certain downs & distances and late-game situations more heavily.

Chiefspants 05-24-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14986026)
If Mike Singletary and the 49ers hadn't destroyed Alex Smith he would have turned out really similarly to Watson. They killed Smith just like the Texans destroyed Carr. Singletary never should have been an NFL Head Coach.

Not a high school coach, either!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#49ers</a> coach Mike Singletary will not return for a third season at the helm of a Texas high school team. His record in two seasons was 1-21.<br>By <a href="https://twitter.com/BairNBCS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BairNBCS</a>:<a href="https://t.co/MzGkUgRfs9">https://t.co/MzGkUgRfs9</a></p>&mdash; Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaioccoNBCS/status/1263933396436152322?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 05-24-2020 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14986731)
Not a high school coach, either!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#49ers</a> coach Mike Singletary will not return for a third season at the helm of a Texas high school team. His record in two seasons was 1-21.<br>By <a href="https://twitter.com/BairNBCS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BairNBCS</a>:<a href="https://t.co/MzGkUgRfs9">https://t.co/MzGkUgRfs9</a></p>&mdash; Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaioccoNBCS/status/1263933396436152322?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not saying Singletary is a great coach or anything, but coaching high schoolers is way different than coaching pro athletes. Or college players. Some of the best coaches in the NFL (think lifeless robots like Belichick) would make terrible high school coaches unless they drastically changed their coaching/teaching philosophies.

That being said... it's time for Mike to hang'em up

Rain Man 05-24-2020 03:18 PM

Okay, here's my ranking of how the quarterbacks will perform in 2020. It's not looking at the long term, but rather this year in a vacuum. My out of the box predictions are that Daniel Jones will develop quickly, and Tyrod Taylor and Phillip Rivers will do better than expected.

On the other end of the scale, I think Brady will continue his collapse, Brees will continue slipping out of the top tier, and Goff's decline will continue.

KC Mahomes
GB Rodgers
Bal L. Jackson
Sea Wilson
NO Brees
Hou D. Watson
Det Stafford
Ari Murray
Ind Rivers
Dal Prescott
Atl Ryan
NYG D. Jones
Min Cousins
LAC T. Taylor
SF Garoppolo
Phi Wentz
Jac Minshew
Car Bridgewater
NYJ Darnold
Den Lock
LAR Goff
Ten Tannehill
Cin Burrow
Buf J. Allen
Oak Carr
Pit Roethlisberger
Cle Mayfield
TB Brady
Mia Tagovailoa
NE Stidham
Chi Trubisky
Was Haskins

Kiimo 05-24-2020 03:58 PM

Kyler Murray is a lot better than you think

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...p-ball-project

MahomesMagic 05-24-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14987162)
Kyler Murray is a lot better than you think

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...p-ball-project


I had Murray as the highest rated QB after Mahomes in the last 5 drafts. Agree.

Brees is a HOF player but no longer a top ten QB..the ball flutters when he throws it over 20 yards now.

MahiMike 05-24-2020 05:14 PM

You missed a 2 in front of the 3 for Jackson. I'd rather have minshew.

RealSNR 05-24-2020 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14987133)
Okay, here's my ranking of how the quarterbacks will perform in 2020. It's not looking at the long term, but rather this year in a vacuum. My out of the box predictions are that Daniel Jones will develop quickly, and Tyrod Taylor and Phillip Rivers will do better than expected.

On the other end of the scale, I think Brady will continue his collapse, Brees will continue slipping out of the top tier, and Goff's decline will continue.

KC Mahomes
GB Rodgers
Bal L. Jackson
Sea Wilson
NO Brees
Hou D. Watson
Det Stafford
Ari Murray
Ind Rivers
Dal Prescott
Atl Ryan
NYG D. Jones
Min Cousins
LAC T. Taylor
SF Garoppolo
Phi Wentz
Jac Minshew
Car Bridgewater
NYJ Darnold
Den Lock
LAR Goff
Ten Tannehill
Cin Burrow
Buf J. Allen
Oak Carr
Pit Roethlisberger
Cle Mayfield
TB Brady
Mia Tagovailoa
NE Stidham
Chi Trubisky
Was Haskins

What if Chicago starts Foles instead of Trubisky (as many expect them to)

Rain Man 05-24-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14987250)
What if Chicago starts Foles instead of Trubisky (as many expect them to)

Yeah, there were a few team where I wasn't sure what they'd do. The Bears, the Steelers, and the Dolphins, to be specific. In the case of the Bears and the Dolphins, they might move up a few spots if they start their veterans over their young guys, but I don't think they'd move up past 20 or so. Foles has had some great runs, but he's kind of a coin flip from year to year, and Fitzpatrick ... well, god bless his very soul so I wish him the best.

I have no idea what's happening with the Steelers. I assumed that Roethlisberger is coming back, but I also have a hunch that he won't last the season as the elbow flares up. They may end up being toward the very bottom, which they richly deserve.

PurpleRiders51 05-24-2020 11:34 PM

Can't take this seriously at all with having Dak ranked above Ryan. NM saw that wrong, thought you had Dak a full tier above Ryan instead of 1 spot. Dak isn't even 1 spot better but can at least call this a good list now. I'd still put Rodgers above Jackson though.


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