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Three7s 09-08-2019 03:43 PM

Defense was a lot like how it was preseason. Good run defense, bad pass defense for the most part. I'll reserve further judgement until Claiborne gets going.

Cosmos 09-08-2019 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14434060)
Not good enough.

This, if you want to win a ring...

New World Order 09-08-2019 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14434031)
DBs ****ing sucked, Ward in particular.

Claiborne needs to play ahead of Ward when he returns.

ROYC75 09-08-2019 03:46 PM

They have a long ways to go to jell into a top 15 defense.

Buckweath 09-08-2019 03:47 PM

I must say, regardless of the Chiefs D, that Jags QB was playing damn well.

Foles wouldnt have been any better. Maybe worse.

PHOG 09-08-2019 03:47 PM

Number 35 needs cut tomorrow. Other than that, things look promising. Not good, but promising.

BlackHelicopters 09-08-2019 03:50 PM

D+. Cashew shredded us. 22/25? Embarrassing.

CrazyPhuD 09-08-2019 03:51 PM

Even after the overhaul our best defensive player is still Patrick Mahomes.

mnchiefsguy 09-08-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 14434090)
They have a long ways to go to jell into a top 15 defense.

Just have to get to 20...especially in points allowed.

They were 24th in points allowed last year.

KChiefs1 09-08-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14434044)
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Being too cute.

keg in kc 09-08-2019 03:54 PM

Didn't see the fourth quarter, obviously, so I can't really evaluate what happened with the garbage time scores, and that's half the points allowed in the game...

As I mentioned in the gameday thread, however, the scheme today looked a lot like preseason game number 5 to me. While there were some blitzes, I really didn't see a whole lot of creativity or much of an aggressive philosophy. And I do expect this to be an attacking defense.

So my guess is that they saw the offensive line injuries that Jacksonville had, decided they could win the game without having to be very exotic, and just played a relatively vanilla defense from the outset. And once we got ahead very quickly, there wasn't really a need to change that approach. Jacksonville was done before halftime.

So while it wasn't all that exciting to watch, I think they effectively kept the scheme off of film for another week, which may be beneficial moving forward. And it wouldn't surprise me to see it happen again in Oakland.

That said, I think they do look to be much improved against the run, I thought that both the linebacker play and the play of Thornhill was encouraging, but it does look like we're going to have to get creative to generate a pass rush, which I don't think surprises anyone. Although Jacksonville's approach did seem to be 'get the ball out as quickly as possible,' and maybe some slower-developing playcalls from the Jaguars would have resulted in more pressure.

All in all, not great, but it's a start. As the players themselves said, they need to tighten some things up, and they know they don't need to be giving up 26 points.

MIAdragon 09-08-2019 03:57 PM

Pretty shitty, going against backups on the oline we got garbage for pressure. We let a no name scrub carve up the secondary. Smells like it always has.

RunKC 09-08-2019 04:02 PM

I think the Fuller TD was just a damn good play. That’s just gonna happen sometimes.

Was definitely the best throw from the QB’s.

Ward is transitioning to a coverage defense after playing man n Dallas and under Sutton.

We definitely need Claiborne.

Side note: Thornhill was really good today

RunKC 09-08-2019 04:03 PM

Oh and we still suck on 3rd down. Unbelievable that we gave up 3rd and 18 today. That is completely unacceptable

dlphg9 09-08-2019 04:21 PM

****ing Chark and Conley both had damn good games.

Chark 4 rec 146yds 1 TD

Conley 6 rec 97 yds 1 TD

I'm not sure what some of you saw from the run D that makes you think they're improved, because Fournette (who may be the most overrated RB in football) had 13 rushes for 66 yards and averaged 5.1 ypc. The only reason he didn't have alot more is because they had to play catch up and their rookie QB did his best Alex Smith impression and completed 22 of 25 for 2 TDs. From what I was able to watch our pass rush looked like it wanted to replicate last year's AFCCG. Luckily one of the only times the D got to the QB they knocked the starter out of the game or else they would have allowed a lot more points.


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