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milkman 04-09-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12816471)
The same people who aren't willing to wait till 2018 to draft a QB are willing to draft a QB and have him sit for 2 years to develop. What's the difference?
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The difference is that we might have wait 2 years for whomever is available when we draft next year.

The difference is that we've heard next year is a better year for QBs every ****ing year since before many here even started following football.

The Franchise 04-09-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12816482)
The 2018 rounder might need a year or two also. Were you actually being serious here?

Gotta wait until 2019, bro.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-09-2017 11:44 AM

2021 is ligning up to have a shit load of great QB's . I'm excited for 2021

PHOG 04-09-2017 11:46 AM

This year's HS sophomore class is the one to keep an eye on for sure!

notorious 04-09-2017 11:46 AM

I'm excited for the QB that hasn't been born yet. Might as well wait it out.

Chief Roundup 04-09-2017 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12816484)
The difference is that we might have wait 2 years for whomever is available when we draft next year.

The difference is that we've heard next year is a better year for QBs every ****ing year since before many here even started following football.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12816482)
The 2018 rounder might need a year or two also. Were you actually being serious here?

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12816471)
The same people who aren't willing to wait till 2018 to draft a QB are willing to draft a QB and have him sit for 2 years to develop. What's the difference?
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Expanding on what these guys thoughts and using the accurate logic that SNR layed out:
If we are drafting in the 25 to 32 range in the 2018 draft the top QB prospects will be gone and we will be left with the same/similar type prospects that we have available to us this year. One of the reason that these QBs might drop to us or close enough for Dorsey to go get him is that this draft is deep at a lot of other positions, 2018 is not according to those same analysts, which will drive these QBs value down.
So if we are going to get a QB that needs to set for a season or two whether we draft that QB in 2017 or 2018 then the difference is that we can have one of those seasons already behind the QB that we might draft in 2017 which in essence would give the 2017 QB an advantage over any 2018 QB that would be available to us in the back end of the 1st round.
To take it one step further another possible advantage to drafting one this year is IF next years draft has these better QBs it will push better talent at other positions down to us. Win-Win!!

Coogs 04-09-2017 12:06 PM

Trubisky will be 23 when the season starts. The other 3 will be 21, and turn 22 during the season.

And I have read where these 4 guys have a chance to be something special... they just need a little time.

A year in our system may help Mahomes far more than going back to Texas Tech for 1 more year and getting college experience. Maybe even the same for Watson or Kizer.

Plus they just may fall down the draft board because they need a little time, not because they lack talent. Plays right into our hands.

Hammock Parties 04-09-2017 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12816484)
The difference is that we've heard next year is a better year for QBs every ****ing year since before many here even started following football.

In this case it's actually true, though.

And if we reach for a middling prospect this year, there's a very good chance we blow our shot at a real first round prospect next year.

The best play to is to trade our 2017 1st for a 2018 1st and then use that ammo to try and move up in 2018.

RunKC 04-09-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12816544)
In this case it's actually true, though.

And if we reach for a middling prospect this year, there's a very good chance we blow our shot at a real first round prospect next year.

The best play to is to trade our 2017 1st for a 2018 1st and then use that ammo to try and move up in 2018.

Nobody is going to trade their 2018 1st rd pick for our 27th overall pick.

Hammock Parties 04-09-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12816562)
Nobody is going to trade their 2018 1st rd pick for our 27th overall pick.

It can ABSOLUTELY happen.

It has happened before. If a team is looking to get back into the first round, or even the top of the 2nd round, they will trade a future 1st, no question.

Examples:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

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The 49ers traded #110 and their 2008 first round pick to the Pats for #28 in 2007.

The Broncos traded their 2010 first round pick for Seattle's #37 in 2009.

The Panthers traded their 2010 first round pick for San Fran's #43 and #111 in 2009.

The Saints traded their 2012 first round pick for New England's #28 in 2011.
And that's not even the entire history of the draft.

-King- 04-09-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12816482)
The 2018 rounder might need a year or two also. Were you actually being serious here?

Or they might need a year. Or they may be ready to start right away. Bottom line is if you want to draft a QB right now that won't be ready till 2019, you shouldn't criticize people who want to wait until 2018 to draft one.
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-King- 04-09-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12816487)
Gotta wait until 2019, bro.

That's my whole point. SNR had said hes okay with drafting Mahomes and having him sit for 2+ years. How is that any better than waiting until 2018 to draft a QB that may be more developed than he is and won't need 2 years on the bench to be ready?

I want to draft a QB this year. I don't want to draft a QB that takes more than a year to develop. I don't see how a QB sitting on the bench for 2 years is any better than drafting a QB next year and having him either start right away or sit for one year and be ready to start at the same time Mahomes would have been ready to start.
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O.city 04-09-2017 01:18 PM

Financially doesn't make sense if your QB has to sit for 2 years. You figure year 3 is then basically a rookie year, and your having to make decisions on a contract without really knowing what you've got.

I'm all for not playing a guy till he's ready, but if it's more than a year, I'm not interested. Especially for a first round pick.

-King- 04-09-2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12816600)
Financially doesn't make sense if your QB has to sit for 2 years. You figure year 3 is then basically a rookie year, and your having to make decisions on a contract without really knowing what you've got.

I'm all for not playing a guy till he's ready, but if it's more than a year, I'm not interested. Especially for a first round pick.

This.
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The Franchise 04-09-2017 01:51 PM

Give Kizer a year and he'll be ready to match and exceed our QBs 15 TDs.


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