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O.city 11-22-2022 03:07 PM

Foskey would be a nice pick at DE.

Hark Clunt 11-22-2022 09:01 PM

foskey seems like an obvious pick for us, if we can get him. zach charbonnet looks interesting, but i don't really want to take a running back in the early rounds either.

duncan_idaho 11-22-2022 09:36 PM

Foskey
Jared Verse
Andre Carter II
BJ Ojulari

All guys that would be a nice match for the Chiefs long-term opposite Karlaftis.

Nightfyre 11-22-2022 11:00 PM

I am intrigued by Siaki Ika. Anyone else? Seems like rare size, speed and some decent moves to boot.

JPH83 11-23-2022 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16622520)
I am intrigued by Siaki Ika. Anyone else? Seems like rare size, speed and some decent moves to boot.

Yep think he's going to be taken between our first and second picks, but if he made it to the 2nd I wouldn't hate that pick there. Maybe a bit rich for a DT but a run stuffer with plus-level pass-rush and room to grow would go a loooong way to improving the DL.

Dull Tools 11-23-2022 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16622589)
Yep think he's going to be taken between our first and second picks, but if he made it to the 2nd I wouldn't hate that pick there. Maybe a bit rich for a DT but a run stuffer with plus-level pass-rush and room to grow would go a loooong way to improving the DL.

I have been thinking that this may be the best way to improve our pressure rate. If we are elite inside then it means that the edge should be able to get more pressure too.

I would rather get a top level interior guy than a second rate edge guy.

O.city 11-23-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16622448)
Foskey
Jared Verse
Andre Carter II
BJ Ojulari

All guys that would be a nice match for the Chiefs long-term opposite Karlaftis.

If Foskey makes it to 20, would you spend a 3rd to go up and get him?

The Franchise 11-23-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16622756)
If Foskey makes it to 20, would you spend a 3rd to go up and get him?

I would but people could have already guessed I would say that.

duncan_idaho 11-23-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16622756)
If Foskey makes it to 20, would you spend a 3rd to go up and get him?

Depends on how many of the other DEs are left. But I'd consider it, sure.

Is a 3rd enough to get from 31 to 20, though?

O.city 11-23-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16622849)
Depends on how many of the other DEs are left. But I'd consider it, sure.

Is a 3rd enough to get from 31 to 20, though?

What did it take to go up and get McDuffie? I thought it was a third.

The Franchise 11-23-2022 10:29 AM

The only thing that Foskey doesn't have is elite bend. It's better than Karlaftis but it's nowhere near his best trait. I'm not sure if Spags looks for that though at this point.

O.city 11-23-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16622892)
The only thing that Foskey doesn't have is elite bend. It's better than Karlaftis but it's nowhere near his best trait. I'm not sure if Spags looks for that though at this point.

Ok yeah I don't like that.

duncan_idaho 11-23-2022 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16622892)
The only thing that Foskey doesn't have is elite bend. It's better than Karlaftis but it's nowhere near his best trait. I'm not sure if Spags looks for that though at this point.

It's not elite bend, but every scouting report I've seen of him talks about it being good enough.

With his quickness, speed-rush ability, and ability to convert speed to power, if Foskey had elite bend, too, he'd be a top 5 draft candidate rather than top 20-25.

O.city 11-23-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16622918)
It's not elite bend, but every scouting report I've seen of him talks about it being good enough.

With his quickness, speed-rush ability, and ability to convert speed to power, if Foskey had elite bend, too, he'd be a top 5 draft candidate rather than top 20-25.

So I have a theory on these kinds of things and what you rather "not have" in a prospect there.

Can you develop bend? Is that one of those innate things like accuracy for a qb that you can tweak and improve somehwat, but it's more of a "you have or you don't" things?

I think speed to power and strength is something you can add to a rusher. I'm not sure you can really improve bend.

JPH83 11-23-2022 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16622980)
So I have a theory on these kinds of things and what you rather "not have" in a prospect there.

Can you develop bend? Is that one of those innate things like accuracy for a qb that you can tweak and improve somehwat, but it's more of a "you have or you don't" things?

I think speed to power and strength is something you can add to a rusher. I'm not sure you can really improve bend.

I wouldn't give up a 3rd to move up for this guy at 20. No way. We need speed and bend and I think you can get a situational rusher type like that late 1st and into the 2nd. They won't have his all round package but they'd give us what we need.


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