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ptlyon 12-08-2017 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 13269439)
Probably not the most annoying thing but would like to see a re-brand I feel the Uniforms and logos need a refresh.
You, you shut Your WHORE MOUTH!

ptlyon 12-08-2017 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 13269450)
Pretty much nailed it.

I was fine with trying a young new Head coach with Todd Haley,... but when Pioli strapped him to a bunch of shit QB's he didn't want to work with, he went into "I don't give a ****ing shit mode".

I blame Pioli for Haleys mess.

Haley brought some good production out of players and has since gone on to keep the Steelers going as one of the most dynamic offenses in the NFL.
AND THAT GOES FOR YOU, TOO!

Rausch 12-08-2017 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13269357)
It seems that ever since Marty/King Carl Peterson days there has not been much cohesion between head coach and GM and the general direction and balance of the team.

Gunther - way over his head as head coach.

Vermeil - brought in originally on a 3 year "win now" window. He picked the wrong DC. Then, was given Gunther as DC and the big name free agent approach to immediately fix the D didn't work.

Edwards - Over his head. Should have been apparent from his days with the Jets but the Hunt family is slow to learn. Inherited an old team. When he finally got some of his own players and sacrificed a year of giving a lot of young guys playing time he was fired.

Haley & Pioli - Should never have been paired together. One of the worst matches in history. Felix and Oscar.

Romeo Crennel - Good DC, not head coach material. Should have been apparent to the Hunt family, but they aren't the quickest learners.

Andy Reid & Dorsey - Another bad GM and HC pairing apparently.

All the while the above is occurring you have a franchise failure to draft and develop its own QB.
I would agree with everything above other than Reid/Dorsey.

They were completely on the same page. Dorsey just sucked at contracts and shit his pants in the first two rounds of the draft.

Every year.

And, many people say, the first two rounds are important...

Eleazar 12-08-2017 11:23 AM
being stuck with Andy Reid for 5 more years or so.

Buehler445 12-08-2017 11:35 AM
Commitment to ****tardery. Somehow, the leadership of the franchise let, King Carl, Squrimin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards, Franchise Killer Pioli (when he was pitching Romeo. Early on he was a "hot" hire), Goonther, et al that they weren't completely ****ing worthless.

I mean come on. There isn't much you can see in any of those guys that doesn't set off the bullshit sensor. I don't see how you can sit in a room with these guys and say, "YEP this guy has it!" It is just maddening.

Clark at least appears to not be loyal to a fault. So maybe he can get lucky.

stevieray 12-08-2017 11:41 AM
The unwillingness to simultaneously field a complete team on both sides of the ball.

The lack of aggressiveness.

Too nice mentality (Lamar & Clark)

Chief_For_Life58 12-08-2017 11:45 AM
I work with a very prominant ex chief player. Talk to him regularly about the chiefs. He told me last night that every exec wants to work for the chiefs because our owner is not there everyday. You have zero ownership involvement. Know why the steelers always win? Because the rooneys live 5 minutes away from the stadium, open and close the doors every morning and are not happy with 2nd place. Our owner lives in Dallas, gives the keys to someone and says ok here you go, it was the same with Lamar. The clarks run this organization like a business and only care about the bottom line. Lamar even said on radio back when he was trying to redo the stadium he would rather the team go 10-6 every year and make the playoffs than win the superbowl once, 10-6 allows you to raise ticket prices every year and pad your bottom line. Clark is the same. He probably goes to the exec offices once a month.

Rausch 12-08-2017 11:47 AM
As a fan of 30 years I think the HC/GM/Owner all agreed once to completely sell out and say "**** it - it's this year. Make it happen."

Once.

And I'm not advocating stupid trades or signing the highest priced FA out there. Just maximizing the full advantage of trades/draft/FA signings...

Chief_For_Life58 12-08-2017 11:47 AM
also to add to that, he said when Andy got hired, it was because everyone got fired, clark had no idea what to do, went to donovan and was like please help, donovan had ties to philly, called Andy, who knowone in the league wanted as a head coach btw, and they hired him. "when the Hunts call, you answer" yeah cus its a free meal ticket to go 8-8 every year

Rain Man 12-08-2017 11:51 AM
General timidity through all levels of the organization, from players to coaches to GMs to ownership (though with the awareness that Clark seems to be more decisive than his father).

The Mahomes trade is probably the first truly bold decision the franchise has made since drafting Buck Buchanan in 1963.

Shaid 12-08-2017 11:52 AM
At the end of the day, you need a QB that can take over games, this team hasn't made that a focus and that's why we haven't been to the big show in so long. I'm hoping they've fixed that. Now fix the line on both sides and things will start to look a hell of a lot better really fast.

Rausch 12-08-2017 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 13269568)
also to add to that, he said when Andy got hired, it was because everyone got fired, clark had no idea what to do, went to donovan and was like please help, donovan had ties to philly, called Andy, who knowone in the league wanted as a head coach btw, and they hired him. "when the Hunts call, you answer" yeah cus its a free meal ticket to go 8-8 every year
Well, you convinced me...

Ghost of Maslowski 12-08-2017 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13269274)
What bothers you the most about this franchise?
the absolute inability and seemingly unwillingness to draft and develop starting quality Quarterbacks for the entire history of the franchise.

Rausch 12-08-2017 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghost of Maslowski (Post 13269594)
the absolute inability and seemingly unwillingness to draft and develop starting quality Quarterbacks for the entire history of the franchise.
Your timing is off...

Chief_For_Life58 12-08-2017 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13269593)
Well, you convinced me...
I mean its true, The Hunts dont live here, theyre not involved in the franchise, they check their bank account every morning and thats it. The steelers, Giants, Cowboys, Patriots, all have ownership that wakes up every morning, goes to teh stadium and thinks about how they can get better as an organization. Our owner wakes up, looks at his bank account, heads to Dallas Country Club to play golf, calls Andy Reid, Andy says yeah everything is fine up here dont worry about it we got it under control, and he gets back to shooting at 105 on the golf course. Prove to me im wrong about our ownership involvement


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