Would you be happy with a 4th this year and a 2nd next year? I have been reading finheaven a lot lately and there are some posters over there starting to think that might be the best compromise. On the other hand, there are still some that think Miami should ask for our 1st this year or a 4th this year and a 1st next.

Also, to stay on Frankie's topic I don't think trading a 2nd for Surtain and their fourth is realistic. Sure, I would love that, but I don't think Carl could pull it off.

Then all I can say is that I hope you'll stick around for a long time...

I just hope you won't be pissed when we get Surtain and you get our 4th... :D

The free agent market was saturated with "2nd tier" cornerbacks that teams did not have to give up compensation to get.

A team like Indy would love to have Surtain but they cant even afford to give James a long term deal.

San Diego could jump into the fray on draft day. They have the picks and a ton of money available under the salary cap.(30 mill?)


As the draft approaches I think someone will enter the picture......

How about Welbourn and a 5th?

I just wish you guys had a 3rd this year.

Id be happy with a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year. Keep in mind a 2006 2nd rounder has the value of a 3rd this year.

So basically it would be two 3rd`s.

But Id prefer just to get this years 2nd and be done with it.

A second round pick for Surtain.

Straight up....and leave it at that.

But either way I trust whatever Saban decides to do.

As a Dolphin fan, you have no Idea how nice it is to be able to say that.

If Wanny was still around we would have given you guys a second AND Surtain.

Nothing against Welbourn....but we are rebuilding and we need picks.

We need cheap, young, talent and that can only be acquired thru the draft.

I don't like the Welbourn trade either. Right now many Chiefs fans are angry that we traded for Welbourn since it means we have no 3rd to use as trade bait with you guys. I think whenever Shields retires we will be thankful to have a good right guard in Welbourn who can immediately start.

Of course, it's his first year there and there's allways hope. I hope for your sake he doesnt fall flat like other great college coaches that moved to the NFL recently.

How many points is a Pro Bowl CB in the prime of his career worth?

That would be a Tricycle...


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Pat Kirwan on NFL Total Access predicts/guesses a 4th this year & a 3rd next year


...that would be sweet

Weird! That's how I've been seeing it go down in the back of my mind. That would be OK by me.

True....very true.

But at the minimum we have hope this year.

We were stuck with Wanny forever.

That guy ruined Chicago and then he ruined Miami.

His style was way to conservative.

Ricky Williams had an NFL record 775 carries in two seasons.

He got burned out....(and not just on the field)

But we have some new energy now.

Saban is "best friends" with B B.

He took a perennial losing program at Michigan state and turned them into a top 10 team while he was there.

He then went to LSU and took a sub .500 team 8 of the last 10 seasons....

And they became a National Champion after just a few short years.(4?)

If you ask me the guy is just so freaking methodical that I cant really imagine him failing.

His last stint in the NFL was 1990, as a DC for the Browns. They went from like the 25th ranked defense to the number 1 after just two seasons as their DC.

I understand the whole college thing......

But Im pretty confident Saban will be the Jimmy Johnson.

Not the Butch Davis.

But either way.....atleast we have hope.

I think we might wait tell we see how the draft goes in the first rd, if we covet a player we will need the 2nd to move up to get em, if not we pick at 15 and say thats the guy we wanted all along, or we trade down and pick up a second or third and make the trade Mami.
And if someone else comes in and wants to pay more in draft choices, this board will melt down :mad:
The Chiefs will wait.

One huge thing that Miami has in their favor is the fact Surtain is dealing with all this with like a professional.

He has not made a demand to be traded. He wants to stay in Miami....

If he came out and said 'Ill never put on a Phins uniform again".....

Or if he said "Im prepared to sit out all year unless i get a contract".....

That would dramatically change things.

But Surtain is a class act......

You guys will be happy to have him.