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bricks 05-13-2005 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser
Strange.

Saunders said on the radio that he plans on using sets with LJ and Priest on the field at the same time this year.

that's a good plan. Mess with the defenses minds a little bit. I would like to see them throw in an extra back. Possibly Wilson or Richardson. Then we've got a jumbo package. I don't think the Chiefs have that type of formation involved in their playbook.

Frankie 05-13-2005 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13
I don't know, LJ is always talking about his dad... he seems to have a lot of say in what LJ thinks.

Sounds like Barry Sanders part deaux.

jspchief 05-13-2005 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock
I'm beginning to think Al Saunders should leave with Vermeil.

Me too. It started with a lot of questionable play calling last year. Now I hear about this sh*t with LJ and it really makes me wonder.

I don't like the thought that players may not be getting on the field because of grudges, pouting, or pre-conceived opinions by the coaches. It's great that he's "mending the fence" now, but the fact remains that he played a part in breaking the fence to begin with. How many more times will a talented player be wasted?

Frankie 05-13-2005 08:34 AM

I know I'm in a clear minority on this at the moment. But I prefer to keep Saunders (as future HC) than keeping LJ if the two can't get along. Don't get me wrong. If LJ keeps showing the stuff he showed last year I'd love to have him. But I'm afraid he's Carl's boy and Carl might decide to not hire Saunders as DV's replacement. That, I have a feeling, will be a bigger loss to the Chiefs. Saunders is one of the top assistants in the league and has previous headcoaching experience. His hiring will be crucial to the Chiefs offensive philosophy not being derailed.

All in all, my favorite scenario is for both parties to kiss and make up.

htismaqe 05-13-2005 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock
I'm beginning to think Al Saunders should leave with Vermeil.

I've thought that for a long time.

I don't believe in trying to extend something just because you can.

HemiEd 05-13-2005 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie
I know I'm in a clear minority on this at the moment. But I prefer to keep Saunders (as future HC) than keeping LJ if the two can't get along. Don't get me wrong. If LJ keeps showing the stuff he showed last year I'd love to have him. But I'm afraid he's Carl's boy and Carl might decide to not hire Saunders as DV's replacement. That, I have a feeling, will be a bigger loss to the Chiefs. Saunders is one of the top assistants in the league and has previous headcoaching experience. His hiring will be crucial to the Chiefs offensive philosophy not being derailed.

All in all, my favorite scenario is for both parties to kiss and make up.


I totally agree with this. Damn I love watching his offense play!

Kyle401 05-13-2005 08:59 AM

I suprised that Saunders is catching so much flak here. He may have made some mistakes with LJ, but LJ may have made some mistakes also. At least Saunders is man enough to sack up and try to work out the relationship for the good of the team and the player. It's not easy to tell someone (particularly a subordinate i.e. boss/employee, coach/player) that you were wrong and you want to set things right.

kc1977 05-13-2005 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
But for two years, Saunders and Larry Johnson didn't speak much to each other; the player knowing that Saunders didn't believe he was worthy of playing time. Those beliefs have to change now, especially with the Chiefs hoping to make another Super Bowl run in probably coach Dick Vermeil's final season.

Is he talking about 1970 or did I miss something very big that happened? Chiefs hoping to make another Super Bowl run?

I think the guy must have meant Vickie D making another Super Bowl run riding the tails of talented assistants to prop up his legend of being nothing more than merely a bizarre and occassionaly senile .500 coach.

the Talking Can 05-13-2005 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle401
I suprised that Saunders is catching so much flak here. He may have made some mistakes with LJ, but LJ may have made some mistakes also. At least Saunders is man enough to sack up and try to work out the relationship for the good of the team and the player. It's not easy to tell someone (particularly a subordinate i.e. boss/employee, coach/player) that you were wrong and you want to set things right.

no shit, particularly when LJ is a whiny, pouting, wife beating prick...I'm glad LJ is a good player for us, I'm glad we drafted him, but he's had his ass kissed enough....AS is the best OC in the league and we want to throw him under the bus for LJ???

Frankie 05-13-2005 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle401
I suprised that Saunders is catching so much flak here. He may have made some mistakes with LJ, but LJ may have made some mistakes also. At least Saunders is man enough to sack up and try to work out the relationship for the good of the team and the player. It's not easy to tell someone (particularly a subordinate i.e. boss/employee, coach/player) that you were wrong and you want to set things right.

Exactly.
Rep

Frankie 05-13-2005 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
no shit, particularly when LJ is a whiny, pouting, wife beating prick...I'm glad LJ is a good player for us, I'm glad we drafted him, but he's had his ass kissed enough....AS is the best OC in the league and we want to throw him under the bus for LJ???

OK rep for you too.

BIG_DADDY 05-13-2005 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
no shit, particularly when LJ is a whiny, pouting, wife beating prick...I'm glad LJ is a good player for us, I'm glad we drafted him, but he's had his ass kissed enough....AS is the best OC in the league and we want to throw him under the bus for LJ???

He probably thinks he's too good to eat his fruit out of can as well, ****ing elitist. :cuss:

B_Ambuehl 05-13-2005 01:20 PM

LJ ran for a few hundred yard games and scored some touchdowns but so did Ruben Droughns. I believe they both amassed yards for the same reason.

I'm sure people weren't questioning Saunders choice at Blaylock as the 2nd string tailback when he was eating up the Saints defense for nearly 200 yards in his first start.

Rausch 05-13-2005 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Who you kidding as I recall you hated Gunther as a Head Coach as well.

Me I would just be incredibly sad, and maybe finally give up on the Chiefs.

I didn't hate Gunther.

I wanted Dom Capers hired. At the time he was hired Gun would have been my 3rd choice.

By the end I loved gun and absolutely hated the stooges. Was it time for a change?

Definitely.

Was Gun doing a good job?

Not if he couldn't see the stooges were holding his team back.

I think a guy like DV who DOESN'T think he can do it all by himself (and shows what I consider to be the proper way to delegate responsibility) is a great person to fill Gun in on what he didn't have as a HC.

And I hope Gun gets another chance at HC somewhere. Look at how long it's taken Al Saunders...

Rausch 05-13-2005 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I've thought that for a long time.

I don't believe in trying to extend something just because you can.

Just out of curiosity, if DV and AS were to leave, what type of HC/Philosophy would you want?...


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