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Skip Towne 02-06-2006 09:41 PM

Has KU ever played Iowa? I don't remember it but a lot is hazy in 50 years of being a :KU: fan.

jspchief 02-06-2006 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
If you're just going to ignore the actual teams they played AND margin of victory... :rolleyes:

EDIT: I have Iowa at 3-4 on the road, with those 4 losses coming by 60 points. LSU is 4-4, with those 4 losses coming by 11 points. LSU also played a much tougher road schedule.

LSU played a tougher road schedule? How do you figure that? Iowa has played 4 teams that were ranked in the top 25 at the time they played, LSU has only played 3.

Whatever. The AP and Coaches poll pretty much agree that Iowa is the better team.

HolmeZz 02-06-2006 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
LSU played a tougher road schedule? How do you figure that? Iowa has played 4 teams that were ranked in the top 25 at the time they played, LSU has only played 3.

Whatever. The AP and Coaches poll pretty much agree that Iowa is the better team.

If you can't even come to grips with the fact that LSU has played a tougher road schedule then this discussion isn't going anywhere.

Road Games:

UConn, West Virginia, Ohio State, Cincinnati, Arkansas, Alabama > Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa State, Northern Iowa, Purdue, Penn State, Saint Louis

I don't even see the 4 teams Iowa played on the road that were ranked at the time. Looking at the polls and when they played those teams, Iowa played two ranked teams, when they met, on the road; Michigan State and Wisconsin. Michigan State beat them by 30 and Wisconsin by 14.

LSU played 3 ranked teams at the time they met; 1 point loss at UConn, 3 point win at West Virginia, and a 2 point loss at Ohio State, a game they led most of the way.

banyon 02-06-2006 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Has KU ever played Iowa? I don't remember it but a lot is hazy in 50 years of being a :KU: fan.

1999@Iowa
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1999-2000: Game 21 - Iowa 77, #15 Kansas 69
February 3, 2000 - Iowa City, IA

Kansas (16-5) Min FG 3FG FT Reb Ast TO Blk Stl PF Pts
Boschee, Jeff ^ 21 2-8 1-7 0-0 0-3 3 1 0 2 5 5
Gregory, Kenny ^ 21 6-11 0-0 0-0 3-5 1 2 0 1 4 12
Chenowith, Eric ^ 25 2-5 0-0 0-0 3-3 0 0 1 0 2 4
Collison, Nick ^ 29 7-15 0-3 7-8 4-10 0 2 0 0 3 21
Bradford, Nick ^ 30 2-5 1-4 1-1 1-4 1 2 0 4 3 6
Gooden, Drew 13 3-6 0-0 1-3 1-4 0 4 0 1 2 7
London, Marlon 23 4-7 1-1 0-2 3-4 0 6 0 0 3 9
Hinrich, Kirk 26 1-6 1-5 0-0 1-4 6 5 0 1 1 3
Johnson, Ashante 8 1-2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 1 2
Carey, Jeff 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-1 0 0 0 0 2 0
Nooner, Terry 2 0-1 0-1 0-0 1-2 1 0 0 0 1 0
Earl, Lester DNP - suspended
Axtell, Luke DNP - illness
Crider, John DNP - coach's decision
Team 1-5
Totals 28-66
.424 4-21
.190 9-14
.643 18-45 12 22 1 9 27 69


Iowa Min FG 3FG FT Reb Ast TO Blk Stl PF Pts
Griffin, Rob ^ 23 2-8 1-3 5-6 0-1 0 2 0 2 1 10
Henderson, Duez ^ 21 2-4 0-0 4-6 2-4 1 2 0 1 4 8
Jaacks, Jacob ^ 30 4-9 2-3 6-8 3-10 0 3 1 2 4 16
Oliver, Dean ^ 36 4-7 1-2 1-3 0-2 7 4 0 3 0 10
Luehrsmann, Ryan ^ 33 3-7 1-5 1-3 0-5 5 1 0 2 1 8
Price, Jason 10 1-1 0-0 0-0 0-1 3 1 0 2 0 2
Fermino, Joe 3 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 2 0 0 0 0
Gomes, Marcelo 3 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 1 0 1 0
Thompson, Rod 21 5-6 1-1 3-5 0-5 0 1 0 2 4 14
Galloway, Kyle 20 3-7 3-7 0-2 0-0 1 1 0 0 1 9
Team 1-1
Total 24-49
.490 9-21
.429 20-33
.606 6-29 17 17 2 14 16 77


Halftime Score: KU 29, Iowa 25
Fouled out: Boschee
Technical fouls: none
Officials: Tom Rucker, Ted Hillary, Jim Burr
Attendance: 15,500
______________________________________
1998 @Allen Fieldhouse
1998-99: Game 7 - Iowa 85, Kansas 81
December 8, 1998 - Allen Fieldhouse

Kansas (5-2) Min FGs 3FGs FTs Reb Ast TO Blk Stl PF Pts
Robertson, Ryan ^ 37 5-12 2-6 0-0 2-5 7 2 0 1 1 12
Gregory, Kenny ^ 32 9-13 1-2 1-4 2-6 5 2 0 0 2 20
Chenowith, Eric ^ 29 5-11 0-0 0-2 4-6 1 5 3 2 3 10
Boschee, Jeff ^ 29 5-11 3-8 2-4 0-1 4 4 0 4 3 15
Bradford, Nick ^ 23 3-6 0-1 3-4 3-5 2 5 0 4 5 9
London, Marlon 16 3-7 0-0 1-2 1-2 1 0 0 3 3 7
Pugh, T.J. 20 2-4 0-0 1-3 3-4 1 2 0 3 5 5
Nooner, Terry 4 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 1 1 0
Carey, Jeff 10 0-3 0-0 3-4 2-2 0 1 1 0 1 3
Earl, Lester DNP - Injury
Johnson, Ashante DNP - Injury
Janisse, Jelani DNP - Coach's decision
Crider, John DNP - Coach's decision
Martin, Chris DNP - Coach's decision
Team 1-1
Totals 32-67 6-17 11-23 18-32 21 21 4 18 24 81


Iowa (6-1) Min FGs 3FGs FTs Reb Ast TO Blk Stl PF Pts
Settles, Jess ^ 14 1-1 0-0 0-0 1-3 1 4 0 0 3 2
Oliver, Dean ^ 29 5-13 2-5 1-3 3-5 7 7 0 3 3 13
Rucker, Guy ^ 17 3-7 0-0 2-2 2-6 0 4 1 0 2 8
McCausland, Kent ^ 28 5-9 5-9 0-0 0-0 3 3 0 1 2 15
Luehrsmann, Ryan ^ 15 3-3 0-0 0-0 0-0 1 3 0 0 3 6
Bauer, Jason 18 0-0 0-0 2-2 3-5 1 1 0 2 1 2
Price, Jason 11 1-2 0-0 2-2 1-1 0 1 0 0 1 4
Jaacks, Jacob 21 5-7 1-1 3-7 1-4 1 1 0 1 2 14
Henderson, Duez 5 0-1 0-0 1-2 0-2 0 0 0 0 1 1
Range, Joey 19 3-6 1-1 1-2 3-6 0 4 0 1 3 8
Koch, J.R. 23 3-6 0-1 6-8 2-6 2 3 3 1 3 12
Team 3-3
Totals 29-55 9-17 18-28 19-41 16 31 4 9 24 85


Halftime Score: Kansas 43, Iowa 34
Fouled out: Bradford, Pugh
Technical fouls: none
Officials: Tom O'Neill, Dan Chrisman, Tom Rucker
Attendance: 16,300

banyon 02-06-2006 09:55 PM

I'd forgotten how that Jaacks guy made Chenowith his b*tch both times we played them.

Mr. Kotter 02-06-2006 09:57 PM

WAAAAAAYYYYY too early for this chit......

IF they continue playin' as they have and continue improving, a 6 is possible. They'd have to play well the rest of the way; no more than one, maybe two losses. Go Baby Hawks!

RCJGKU :KU:

Ceej 02-06-2006 10:00 PM

That UK/WSU game is intriguing.

But, how can UK be considered to make the tournament? They are trash.

jspchief 02-06-2006 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
If you can't even come to grips with the fact that LSU has played a tougher road schedule then this discussion isn't going anywhere.

Road Games:

UConn, West Virginia, Ohio State, Cincinnati, Arkansas, Alabama > Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa State, Northern Iowa, Purdue, Penn State, Saint Louis

I don't even see the 4 teams Iowa played on the road that were ranked at the time. Looking at the polls and when they played those teams, Iowa played two ranked teams, when they met, on the road; Michigan State and Wisconsin. Michigan State beat them by 30 and Wisconsin by 14.

LSU played 3 ranked teams at the time they met; 1 point loss at UConn, 3 point win at West Virginia, and a 2 point loss at Ohio State, a game they led most of the way.

Conveniently left out Kentucky and Texas from Iowa's road games.

And like I said, there's about 500 voters between the two polls that agree with me.

HolmeZz 02-06-2006 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
Conveniently left out Kentucky and Texas from Iowa's road games.

And like I said, there's about 500 voters between the two polls that agree with me.

Those weren't road games. STFU

In fact, they were each more of a home game.

LSU and Iowa were each higher than one another in opposite polls last week. LSU is just coming off a loss at Alabama.

Prince22 02-07-2006 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles
That UK/WSU game is intriguing.

But, how can UK be considered to make the tournament? They are trash.


watch your mouth

Ceej 02-07-2006 12:32 AM

Who have you beat? You got smoked by Indiana, Kansas and Florida. Give me some big wins. Trash, trash, trash. The way things are going for you I doubt you make the tournament and I doubt Tubby has a job in Lexington next year. But, the way it is sounding you guys would enjoy that.

banyon 02-07-2006 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles
Who have you beat? You got smoked by Indiana, Kansas and Florida. Give me some big wins. Trash, trash, trash. The way things are going for you I doubt you make the tournament and I doubt Tubby has a job in Lexington next year. But, the way it is sounding you guys would enjoy that.

Hey, hey! They did beat the hell outta Louisville on their home court.

Oh wait..that's right, Louisville is terrible this year! :)
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BTW, For anyone interested...Gonzaga struggling with St. Mary's right now on ESPN2.

Ceej 02-07-2006 12:37 AM

Oh... yeah. BIG WIN! Good work.

Ceej 02-07-2006 12:39 AM

Oh, nice. L-Ville! Great.

I actually want UK to make the tournament. That way my hometown school WSU could beat a team with so much tradition. Good luck making the tournament 'Cats! :)

banyon 02-07-2006 12:46 AM

Zags in SERIOUS trouble. Going down.


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