Wow, KU-level cheating.

How much did Bush play in 04? I expect the NCAA to drop the hammer on them if it's as bad as it's starting to sound. Forfeiture of games, probation and maybe even losing their Nat'l championship. ROFL

How can they take away their National Championship? It's not the NCAA'a championship.

Or it could be that when he was recruited out of HS, the Coach failed to notice that the kid's family lived in low income housing, but now his family is living in a mansion in the hills.

Someone is gouging big time here. That home is quite a bit smaller than mine, but it has nice lake view so it is going to be only slightly more valuable than mine. My house payment is approximately 2700 per month, so that seems outrageous for rent.

It was hardly a mansion. It was 3 bedroom home with 3000 square feet and frankly it is no where nearly as nice as my home which is not close to being a mansion. The only real plus for that home is the Lake view.

For you maybe, but for some poor ****er like me it's a goddamn mansion.

i totaly agree with that. it's one thing when the school is going about something illegally, but another if players are cutting deals on the side.
this probably is the end result of going through life getting away w/anything because of the talent on the field. then maybe not.

I wasn't really focussing on Bush himself, just in general. Schools know this stuff goes on and if they don't want sanctions, they should make a bit more of an attempt to regulate this stuff. Saddly, Bush and the Agent are to blame, but the School will get the penalty.


Kinda like, for example, when I was attending MU, from time to time you'd see athletes drafted from inner-city setting driving new sports cars. How did they afford such pricey cars given their lifestyles before college?

Why should the school be responsible in this case? It had nothing to do with them.

I'm not sure you understand the story behind this. This wasn't USC booster rewarding Bush for playing at USC. This was someone bribing Bush to get business from his pro career. USC gained nothing.

Why should the school be responsible? Who will get the punishment in this case? Bush will still get his contract. The agent will pick up another player. The School will get the shaft. IMO, it comes down to the school needing to watch out for its own athletic system here.

I understand the story too, but still, NCAA rules were violated. Bush played NCAA ball AFTER basically making a deal with an agent. No the school didn't gain anything, but they could face NCAA sanctions just the same. Not to mention having a national championship revolked.

Too bad if they have their NCAA championship revoked. How many times did they get away with stuff without being caught?

Everything works in a fire drill mentality, business,gov't, schools.

Nothing happens until after an event is brought to light.

And my whole point is, why should the school be punished for the actions of an individual? They can't control these kids, and I think it's unreasonable to expect them to.

The flaw in this entire issue is that these students aren't allowed to profit off their athletic talent while in college.

So I guess an education that would cost a person $25,000+ and lifelong career possibilities after college don't count for anything?


I understand your point, and, in my opinion, the school shouldn't be held accountable for this either. But in reality, I know they will.

It's really too bad the NCAA can't declare Bush inelligable for the draft until this is cleared up.

But that ain't gonna happen.