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Ebolapox 05-02-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal
John Elway.

Brian Griese at least ended up a starter, as did Maddox.

Who have we drafted since that period?

Blackledge? :shake:
Fuller? He did become a starter
Blundin? :shake:

And gawd knows who else.

Of course, you can make the argument that Denver didn't draft Elway, they instead STOLE his arrogant California azz.

the then baltimore colts (now indy) drafted john elway

vailpass 05-02-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Denver did not draft Elway.

We asked nicely for him.

teedubya 05-02-2006 11:44 AM

I think at this time, Cutler is the one... but, when pads are on... who knows.

HolmeZz 05-02-2006 11:46 AM

I had Cutler as my #2 rated QB, and Croyle at 3. So Cutler.

HolmeZz 05-02-2006 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
This is simply the funniest homer-thread I've ever seen on CP. You are SERIOUSLY debating whether Brodie "two blown ACLs, a blown shoulder, and a skinny frame" Croyle is going to be a better NFL QB than Cutler. I love it.

Oh, please put my vote in for Cutler.

(Chiefs fans are so cute to watch sometimes; ya' lovable losers you.)

If you don't think Croyle is capable of being better than Cutler, you're clueless. The two blown ACLs you bring up are the main reason Croyle went in the 3rd round.

Radar Chief 05-02-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz
If you don't think Croyle is capable of being better than Cutler, you're clueless. The two blown ACLs you bring up are the main reason Croyle went in the 3rd round.

Exactly, not only did we get a better QB, we got’im cheaper. nlm

Cormac 05-02-2006 12:01 PM

The major advantage for Cutler is the lack of injuries. Croyle has been beaten up.

The major advantage for Croyle is the situation he is arriving into. As a 3rd round pick, we can safely expect him to sit for 2 years. I also predict that after 2 more seasons, Trent will be sliding in production. That should also give ample time to Croyle to strengthen up and add 15-20 lb. Croyle will have a lot expected of him by the fan faithful, but Cutler is going to be in a national media pressure cooker from this TC on. I expect he can handle it, he seems tough, but he may well be rushed into action. As a Denver hater I love the fact that there is going to be a QB controversy there for the forseeable future. I can't see that helping either QB perform at his best.

Bottom line, Cutler was drafted #11 for a reason. But Croyle is much higher value, IMO.

cdcox 05-02-2006 12:02 PM


According to the source you provided, the players grade out very similarly, with Cutler getting a slight edge, mostly due to having a beefier frame and the power an durability issues that go with that. If Croyle can put on some muscle thereby increasing his durability, they'd be dead even on potential.


You guys spent a #11 overall for your guy. We got ours for a thrid rounder.

Taco John 05-02-2006 12:02 PM

If Bono Croyle can stay healthy, there's no telling how many games he can lose with you guys...

big nasty kcnut 05-02-2006 12:03 PM

I'll take croyle for a 100 alex.

dollar1 05-02-2006 12:03 PM

WTF
 
Bench presses of 275lb (for a skinny kid) and 400 Freaking lbs and 225 27 times for a quaterback?

Who here can even come close to either one. In my day, I could do 225 maybe 2-3 times max.

Just wow...

~back under rock~

HolmeZz 05-02-2006 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John
If Bono Croyle can stay healthy, there's no telling how many games he can lose with you guys...

If you followed either QBs career, you'd realize Cutler was much more used to losing.

King_Chief_Fan 05-02-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief
Exactly, not only did we get a better QB, we got’im cheaper. nlm

Which I think is the real question. Who got the better value vs. potential.
Should Cutler bust (and we have seen plenty of 1st do so), Denver loses more than KC. His chances of failure may be better than success since Denver has proven to be wrong with every QB they have picked. (Elway picked them, they didn't pick him).

Chiefs will only be out a 3rd rounder should Croyle fail.

Bowser 05-02-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
Cutler:
Campus: 4.81 in the 40-yard dash...400-pound bench press...Bench pressed 225 pounds 27 times...480-pound squat...295-pound power clean...315-pound hang clean...32-inch vertical jump...31 ½-inch arm length...9 3/8-inch hands...Right-handed...26/36 Wonderlic score.

http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/insi...=Cutler&pos=QB

So what? Croyle's dad can beat up Cutler's dad.

Chiefnj 05-02-2006 12:20 PM

The Chiefs will probably be in a tough situation with Croyle. Third round picks generally sign 3 year deals. Trent is expected to play another 2-3 years. Just when Croyle is given an opportunity his contract will likely be up.


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