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alanm 07-29-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
3-3.

Both Oakland wins and the Texans win.

The Denver, Philly, and Buffalo losses.

Granted he was missed especially in the Buffalo game. Somewhat in the Denver game. Hell both the Denver and the collasph with Philly can be pinned squarely on the defense. :banghead:

jspchief 07-29-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch
It's killed the Steelers and Pats for years now...

Sure, if you want to ignore the '00 Pats season that netted them Richard Seymour and Matt Light and the '03 Steelers season that got them Ben Roethlisberger.

tk13 07-29-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
Sure, if you want to ignore the '00 Pats season that netted them Richard Seymour and Matt Light and the '03 Steelers season that got them Ben Roethlisberger.

Yeah, we had that chance... and we got Ryan Sims.

CosmicPal 07-29-2006 12:54 PM

It's always a blow to lose a HOFer from your team. If there's any good news to this- they did at least go out and get Turley. But, more importantly- our OC knows the OL and will make the necessary adjustments to make the offense gell. For instance, we may now employ a zone blocking scheme and utilize the strenghts of each member on the line.

But, I can see a couple of things happening: 1. We will most likely be double-teaming on the outside rush. and 2. Green won't be dropping back as much. Instead, his drop-backs will be shorter and the passing plays will be quicker.

tk13 07-29-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm
Granted he was missed especially in the Buffalo game. Somewhat in the Denver game. Hell both the Denver and the collasph with Philly can be pinned squarely on the defense. :banghead:

I don't think he was the sole reason we lost the Philly game, the defense did a nice little number there, but that was the game where Tony G. complained because we kept him in to block the whole game and he only had like 5 yards receiving.

jspchief 07-29-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
Yeah, we had that chance... and we got Ryan Sims.

I'm certainly not trying to claim that a high draft pick is necessary to win a SB, or a guarantee of future success.

I was just responding to what I perceived as a claim NE and PIT had success in spite of never getting high picks.

I agree with Mecca's comment about the middle of the road W/L record (7-9 t 9-7). It sucks. Not good enough to get into the play-offs, and never bad enough to draft "elite" prospects. I'm not saying I want the team to do poorly, just agreeing that there's less to get excited about in that position.

jspchief 07-29-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JBucc
What was our record over those six games without Roaf last year? Anybody know? I'd like to know that before giving out my new predictions.

3-3

We lost to Denver, Philly, and Buffalo.

And our two worst offensive performances came with Roaf on the sideline.

Last year in a radio interview, Mitch Holthus gave the winning percentage of Roaf's teams with him on the field versus when he was injured. It was ugly. I'll try and get it from him again on Monday when our local station interviews him.

Hammock Parties 07-29-2006 01:26 PM

Our defense sucked against Philly and Denver last year...I don't think they'll be anywhere near that bad this year.

We're going to be prepared this year without Roaf. Last year we weren't.

Messier 07-29-2006 01:57 PM

The Buffalo game was soooo frustrating because it could have easily been a win. We out played the Bills. It came down to needing to run the ball more and those two long bombs that the great J.P. Losman threw for tds.

R&GHomer 07-29-2006 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
I don't think he was the sole reason we lost the Philly game, the defense did a nice little number there, but that was the game where Tony G. complained because we kept him in to block the whole game and he only had like 5 yards receiving.

The Defense and coaching cost us that game. The offense did it's job in the first half, but Al had to get cute in the second half and the Defense was just horrible.

Halfcan 07-29-2006 07:46 PM

What a bullshit article, we will still kick ass this year. Hey Fatlock have you even seen our schedule? Everybody needs to quit the fucking crying.

Mecca 07-29-2006 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan
What a bullshit article, we will still kick ass this year. Hey Fatlock have you even seen our schedule? Everybody needs to quit the fucking crying.

We're doomed now.......you jinxed it.

GoHuge 07-29-2006 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
I'm certainly not trying to claim that a high draft pick is necessary to win a SB, or a guarantee of future success.

I was just responding to what I perceived as a claim NE and PIT had success in spite of never getting high picks.

I agree with Mecca's comment about the middle of the road W/L record (7-9 t 9-7). It sucks. Not good enough to get into the play-offs, and never bad enough to draft "elite" prospects. I'm not saying I want the team to do poorly, just agreeing that there's less to get excited about in that position.

Would you consider Larry Johnson who rushed for over 2000 yards his senior year not an "elite" prospect at #27? Everything about #27 looks pretty elite. I understand what your saying. Not disagreeing just making a point.

TrickyNicky 07-29-2006 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
3-3.

Both Oakland wins and the Texans win.

The Denver, Philly, and Buffalo losses.

Some additional stats for this:

Sacks/yd lost

1-8 Oakland
2-10 Denver
3-12 Philly
3-28 Oakland
6-54 Buffalo
0-0 Houston

15-112 Total without Roaf

32 total sacks minus those W/O Roaf = 17 sacks in 10 games

1.7 Sacks per game with Roaf
2.5 Sacks per game without Roaf

Ouch

Mosbonian 07-29-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass
To hear people talk it would be impossible to win the Super Bowl without Roaf, yet 40 teams have done it and not a single one of them had Willie Roaf at LT.

I think it is a big loss, but it isn't the end of our season.

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Kind of the same sentiment I had in Post #75 on this thread...

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