To be fair, both Wesley and Woods were pretty good in 2003.

I don't understand how that team got so many turnovers.

Is it luck?

True, but weird at the same time, because Vermiel didn't bring either of those guys in, and as much as he ignored the defensive side of the ball, I'm wondering if those two weren't more of a carl thing seeing as how he drafted them.

Wesley is a thug bonehead-I have not been impressed with him for several years-he forgot how to hit and takes plays off. Knight did a fine job except getting burned on deep coverage-but did have some big turnovers.

P@P will have to show something in preseason to be starters opening day.

I don't think you overpay for safeties, you could justify the Wesley one alot more than the Woods one. Woods had broken his leg and was over 30 years old, 2 huge reasons to not pay him but the Chiefs did......

My friend got back from River Falls (he lives nearby, and goes just to see a professional team practice... apparently not a Chiefs fan, just a fan of the game). From his reports, Page is looking like the best safety on our roster, and it's not at all out of the question that he start. Pollard is as good as the reports say, and it's not out of the question that he start as well.

I'd be just fine with this combo. There'd be mistakes, but I've been putting up with mistakes for years now with this defense. May as well have some mistakes blamed on inexperience, and to couple with those mistakes, some amazing plays by great athletes. Oh, and I want to see some ****ing hard hits. More QB crushing safety blitzes, as Gaz would have it

ROFL

Any situation can be tied to, or blamed on Carl.

Yeah, you're probably right. But Carl takes care of his guys usually... plus Gunther was coming back and they were both Gunther guys as well.

Someone Reserve Pollard a bust in Canton... let the HOF curators know now.

I hope so.

After the 3 superbowls and 8 probowls.

I think one of them will start in place of Knight. I do not pretend to be an expert but it is just from what I have picked up from reading. I read where Knight got burned and that he is slow. Plus, the 2 young guys seem to like to hit people.

I agree-more hits. Page sounds like the steal of the entire draft.

You guys are over-doing it with the "hits" stuff. If they like to hit guys fine, but they better have the speed and smarts to know and be in the right positions or it won't make any bit of difference.

speed and smarts-does not apply to Knight and Gwes

Even if you're more concerned with speed than hits, I think they are guaranteed to be faster than Sammy Knight, so its just a matter of learning where to be at the right time, and Herm should be good at coaching that.