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Warrior5 08-08-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
...I don't know the answer, but having the best TE hasn't won a playoff game yet for KC.

Tony Gonzales has never won a playoff game.

noa 08-08-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrior5
Tony Gonzales has never won a playoff game.

You can't blame him for that.

penguinz 08-08-2006 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by noa949
You can't blame him for that.

I blame halfcan for it.

sedated 08-08-2006 04:00 PM

Tony dropped a lot of passes last year, and he could decline physically.

but tight ends are not that expensive, especially for a future HOFer

and he keeps himself in better shape than most, we're not talking about ryan sims here

Mr. Laz 08-08-2006 04:37 PM

a case could be made that we never should of pay a tightend like a wr in the first place.


people keep complaining about a weakness at wide receiver .......... well :shrug:

Mecca 08-08-2006 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
a case could be made that we never should of pay a tightend like a wr in the first place.


people keep complaining about a weakness at wide receiver .......... well :shrug:

This is also the team that in 6 years hasn't valued WR enough to take one in the first 2 rounds.......Apparently guys like Junior Siavii, Kris Wilson and so forth are better to have than a WR.

tiptap 08-08-2006 04:52 PM

If the bonus money can be negotiated, we can contract a salary and if he ain't producing cut him. Come on, TG has been the reason we could get along without a true no 1 WR as stated above. He blocks well and the guy is hungry for the ring. Wait to see what the signing is about before gassing the deal.

Mr. Laz 08-08-2006 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
This is also the team that in 6 years hasn't valued WR enough to take one in the first 2 rounds.......Apparently guys like Junior Siavii, Kris Wilson and so forth are better to have than a WR.

i guess they just really consider their wr's to be

Gonzo #1
kennison #2
parker #3


you don't need to draft a wide receiver in the 1st round if you just looking to fill the #4 slot.

Mr. Laz 08-08-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tiptap
the guy is hungry for the ring

if he is so hungry for a ring then why does he spend his offseason learning spanish and cooking ... then his training camp on the sidelines like he's been around 13 years(roaf,shields)


gonzo is good ... but he's been pretty content about his level of play for several years.

Mecca 08-08-2006 04:59 PM

I hope that idea changes, I think Herm looks at our WR's and thinks "wow these guys suck" alot more than Vermiel and Saunders would have.....they seemed to enjoy having scrubs out there because they liked them.

keg in kc 08-08-2006 05:02 PM

He still has a value as the national face of the team, as well, being in all the NFL and United Way ads and maybe the most recognizable face on the team. It's an intrinsic value you have to pay for. He's also one of the few home-grown talents we have, and I think we should make an effort to have him here his entire career, a la Will Shields. He's going to be a hall of famer, in all likelihood, unless he completely drops off the map and I think it would be nice to have him here the entire time if at all possible, especially in the salary cap era.

JMO.

And his numbers haven't declined so much as they've been spread around to other people, because the overall output of the offense hasn't declined. He could well have a career year if his foot's at all healthy and Solari really is focusing on running plays that he likes to get him the ball, both in and out of the scoring zone. I don't expect (or want) a career high in either catches (more than 102 would be nuts) or yards (1200+ is a ton...) but I don't think approaching a career high in TDs would be out of the realm of possibility.

NCarlsCorner2 08-08-2006 05:15 PM

his yards would be a lot better if he could get some RAC yards, Gonzalez is just not that fast of a runner, he basically catches the ball and gets tackled.

kcxiv 08-08-2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chief2000
At the price he wants , no way.

Who are all these great Tightends in their 30's ?

I guarantee you they are more role players who are 3rd option.

Not burner types like Shanon or Tony G used to be.

What price does Tony want for his next contract? I need a link to this.

boogblaster 08-08-2006 05:29 PM

Tony G.. is still the best in the business..his catches were down last year because they used him to block most of their short yardage plays go around the ends thus he blocks...plus the right side is weak... BOOG OUTT....

Tribal Warfare 08-08-2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP
Yeah, Trent Green has sucked ass since he turned 30. Eddie Kennison has been terrible too, setting career-highs and everything. Hell, we should cut Pat Surtain and Ty Law. They're both WAY too old. Willie Roaf should stay retired, he nor Will Shields can make the probowl anymore since they're over 30.

don't forget Joe Montana and James Hasty


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