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Warrior5 12-13-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69
Why playoff bashing...Chiefs arent out of it yet.

Just wait...San Diego wants to get even for the "being soft" comment we gave them after we won last time.....but I'm telling you that we will win the next three games...we will be a wildcard team.

San Diego is going on a three game slide starting this weekend...

KC will limit Ladainian to only 56 yards rushing...with 22 attempts..and no touchdowns.

LJ will have three rushing touchdowns and 199 rushing yards

Gonzalez will get two touchdowns

Chiefs 38
Chargers 17

Yep! Print 'em!

Chiefnj 12-13-2006 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ck_IN
Personally I wouldn't call anyone drafted later then the 3rd round a bust and would therefore not be eligible for this question.

That said I'd say Sims has to be the winner. With all due respect to Jenkin's bustage, Sims was a 6th overall. Jenkins was a 31st overall pick.

I don't think Sims should be the winner since he was highly regarded coming out of college. Minnesota thought he was the best DT in the draft as well. That makes Sims the biggest bust of a player, but not necessarily the worst pick by Carl. Carl at least had an arguably legitimate basis for selecting Sims.

omeone like Jenkins or Siavii on the other hand, they were busts plus they were reaches. That's the height of GM ineptitude.

patteeu 12-13-2006 10:07 AM

If we've already seen the full extent of the contribution that Ryan Sims will make to the Chiefs, he wins the prize going away as far as I'm concerned.

Trezelle Jenkins is a strong candidate, but he was taken at the end of the first round. Sims was taken with the highest draft pick Carl has ever had aside from the one he used quite successfully on Derrick Thomas (he wasn't the guy who picked Neil Smith was he?).

Percy Snow and Sly Morris are also contenders, but it's hard to put all the blame for these guys on Carl since they both lost their careers to injuries before they could demonstrate their actual playing abilities.

Brock 12-13-2006 10:08 AM

Ryan Sims. When you draft a #6 pick and it's a failure it is devastating.

Fat Elvis 12-13-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock
Ryan Sims. When you draft a #6 pick and it's a failure it is devastating.

Don't forget to add what we traded for that #6 pick when figuring the magnitude of his bust.

HemiEd 12-13-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69
Correct me if I am wrong...but didnt we pass up on Joe Montana as a draft pick??

Yep, the Chiefs were the only team to pass on him.

dtebbe 12-13-2006 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

Percy Snow and Sly Morris are also contenders, but it's hard to put all the blame for these guys on Carl since they both lost their careers to injuries before they could demonstrate their actual playing abilities.

All I can tell you is that Percy Snow was a sack machine on techmo-bowl! Too bad he never realized his potiential in real life :)

DT

el borracho 12-13-2006 11:59 AM

Jenkins was the worst
Siavii the second worst
Sims the third worst

el borracho 12-13-2006 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyaf2
No need for a tournament. If Ryan Sims don't win this thing, its a conspiracy.

Sims was at least cast as a high first round pick by other teams so it is hard to completely fault Peterson. The real error that year was trading up to get Sims instead of taking one of the other highly rated DTs that were available that year. If we had just waited until our pick we would have had John Henderson and retained our 3rd round pick. Think about that.

Redrum_69 12-13-2006 12:03 PM

Ryan Sims isnt that bad


Look who his coaches were.....


Sims deserves another shot.....

Frazod 12-13-2006 12:03 PM

Sims. No one drafted that high should suck so completely. He's stuck it to us from day one. What a pure useless piece of shit.

DIE SIMS DIE 4321

el borracho 12-13-2006 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrum_69
Why playoff bashing...Chiefs arent out of it yet.


Just wait...San Diego wants to get even for the "being soft" comment we gave them after we won last time.....but I'm telling you that we will win the next three games...we will be a wildcard team.

San Diego is going on a three game slide starting this weekend...


KC will limit Ladainian to only 56 yards rushing...with 22 attempts..and no touchdowns.

LJ will have three rushing touchdowns and 199 rushing yards

Gonzalez will get two touchdowns

Chiefs 38
Chargers 17

Had a little eggnog this morning, did we?

el borracho 12-13-2006 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
I don't think Sims should be the winner since he was highly regarded coming out of college. Minnesota thought he was the best DT in the draft as well. That makes Sims the biggest bust of a player, but not necessarily the worst pick by Carl. Carl at least had an arguably legitimate basis for selecting Sims.

omeone like Jenkins or Siavii on the other hand, they were busts plus they were reaches. That's the height of GM ineptitude.

The Siavii fiasco was worse than the Sims pick by far. Olshansky was on the board for us but Carl traded down and we missed him. Instead we got Siavii who was worthless and Wilson who likely could have been had much later. Those are serious draft blunders. Much worse than drafting the top rated player and having that player turn out to be a bust.

BigRedChief 12-13-2006 12:10 PM

Man King Carl has really whiffed on DT's
2001 - Eric Downing DT R3
2002 - Ryan Sims DT R1
2004 - Junior Siavii DT R2
Add this to the recent list of DT's taken...What year was Freeman DT taken in the 2nd round?

Iowanian 12-13-2006 12:16 PM

Trezelle Jenkins.


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