If you want to bitch about Marty or Vermeil and their love of mediocre veterans, by all means, have at it.

But shut up about Herm.

We have more young players starting and contributing this year than we have since Carl Peterson arrived.

I was talking about Law..and used that to generalize why he wanted a very expensive overrated player..thats all.

If we are going to be anywhere competative in the next 3 years, this better become the norm.

We serioulsy need a youth movement through the Chiefs, We have many players over 30... EK, TG, TG, our interior line.

For any chance of competing for a playoff spot in 08 or 09, we need some serious house cleaning.

I know, and that's why I called you on it.

It was a generalization that simply isnt true, and there's no reason to bag on Herm for the ONE THING HE'S DONE RIGHT in KC - play the young guys.

I agree. That's the only reason I hold out some shred of hope - Herm seems to have a different approach to young players than his predecessors.

I think next year will be a serious transition year. We were caught this year with age and injuries.. But we have to get younger on offense espically on the line and QB.. Neither one of the QB's we have now should be on the roster next year. If the Chiefs are serious about the playoffs and serious about building a soild core of players the next couple of years. Then on thing that has to happen is get younger. Take the lumps and roll on.

The fans will be there if the team in young and shows promise. What pisses the fans off, it spending all the money on washed up vets, just in hopes one more year might spark that magical one and done playoff year.

House cleaning time, if you want a chance you have to clean house. Every organization has done it. Only way to start a foundation of being successful.

You really think Carl with 3 years left on his deal is going to go into rebuilding? If he planned on leaving at the end of that contract someone else would get the spoils of his rebuilding.

You're right..I was probably thinking more about what he had done in the past..and grouped the situation with Law in there.

Mecca,

Just thinking out loud here, but what about this? Plus I know Carl is a complete moron when it comes to talent.


Trade Trent to Washington for what ever you can get? 3rd?

Tony G? Man he could be a pacifer for a young up coming QB, but if you could get a 1 and 3 or 4 for him it might be tempting.

Hell you could probably get a 3rd for Huard and 3rd for Trent.

LJ? Wow, with all the young backs making marks in the NFL, if you could send him away for a couple of 1's and a couple of later round picks, it might be worth it..

I know LJ is pretty soild. But think of all the holes that the chiefs have. One offseason like that and the 08 season could be filled with alot of hope and promise?

Agian thinking out loud, dont bash.

Get rid of all the old offense players from the Vermeil/Saunders era...trade them..release them...whatever


Then build on this years draft..and in a few years down the road we'll have a winning season...say 9-7 or better

Chiefs have talent..its game-day coaching and heart thats lacking.....

Not our wonderful Chiefs.

And it will be the same until CP retires. He will sign some Free agents to plug the holes. Arrowhead will be sold out again. and we end up with an 8-8 record for 2007.

Will not happen as long as Carl is running the show. If people cant see that by now, i dont know when they will figure that out.

I also think law has played pretty good Considering the Chiefs whole Defense has what 26 total sacks? Hell, I think lastnight i seen that Green Bay's Dline had 34 on their own. Thats how bad our Dline has been, The 2nd half of the Season our Dline has been totally non existent.

We're not gonna rebuild. Forget it.

We're gonna limp along until Peterson retires.

The best we can hope for is that Herm is a better judge of young talent than Vermeil and this cupboard is fully stocked for the next coach.

Looks like Herm might of left it that way in NY? His predicessor isnt doing to bad...

I know we are not going to rebuild, but hey as Chiefs fans championships are so such a pipe dream with Carl here rochambeau, We have to have some hope.

Dont take that away from us Htismaqe. For the love of god man, let us have alittle hope?:cuss:

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