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Lzen 02-01-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
They're called Promise Keeper events.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ............. haaaaaaaaaa!!!!


Not really. That was stupid.


But I do agree with your previous post. A lot of irresponsible owners who want to look like a badass with their pitbulls. I don't agree with banning the breed outright. That punishes the good owners. I think they could come up with something that would make it less tempting to own a pit just to be another thug with a tough looking dog.

Lzen 02-01-2007 12:19 PM

The issue is not that pitbulls are more likely to bite humans. I don't think they are any more likely to do that than most other breeds. A lot of it is in how the owner raiser the dog. The issue is how strong a pitbull's jaws are and how much damage they are capable of. That being said, there are plenty of well balanced pitbulls that should not be included in this type of legislation. BSL is stupid, IMO.

Sully 02-01-2007 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
They're called Promise Keeper events.


LOL

Awesome!!

HonestChieffan 02-01-2007 12:27 PM

not sure I understand the promice keepers comment at all

Redrum_69 02-01-2007 12:28 PM

Manhattan Kansas going after anything even resembling 12 different breeds.




Does this include people too?

acesn8s 02-01-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan
not sure I understand the promice keepers comment at all

Keep pondering.

jynni 02-01-2007 01:21 PM

I've really only had contact with two pits (well, one was an American Staffordshire Terrier) and they were two of the sweetest, best behaved dogs I've ever met.

HonestChieffan 02-01-2007 01:30 PM

Interesting perspective here...seems the data says something rather different than we are often led to believe...

http://www.city-journal.org/html/9_2_scared_of_pit.html

TrebMaxx 02-01-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
I got an Australian Cattle dog last year. He is little hyper and out of control sometimes, but he might be the smartest dog I have ever owned. One of the best decisions I've made.

I hear ya. Mine are just now starting to show signs of settling down and they just reached 4 years old. The first two years they were really crazy. One thing that really cracks the wife and I up is when ever they want something, like to be let outside or to be fed, they will try to herd one of us to the back door or where we keep the dog food. You will end up with one on your right and one on your left, then they work as a team guiding the stupid human.

Back on topic. I am also on the side that it is ignorant owners that cause the problems with what ever breed a dog may be. I have friends that raised two pits from pups to be inside lap dogs and man they are the coolest dogs. All they want is to be petted and snuggled with.

BIG_DADDY 02-01-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan
Interesting perspective here...seems the data says something rather different than we are often led to believe...

http://www.city-journal.org/html/9_2_scared_of_pit.html

Look dude if you don't want to look like fear mongering clown I have posted endless facts on this subject in several threads since they started proposing BSL. I am not going to repost them all here you can just go back and look if you are really interested and not baiting.(I am still not convinced you are not baiting) In short this has never been about pit bulls it has been about tying to end the domestic ownership of all dogs. That's why they pass vicious dog legislation then add breeds as opposed to just passing pit bull legislation. That's why in this case they are already starting out with 12 different breeds and anything that even resembles them. Some places are now going after any dog above a certain weight because they are losing the BS battle based upon going after pit bulls. Pit bulls are NOT human aggressive. MOF if they show any sign of human aggression they are immediately put down as 3 people have to handle them in the pit. PETA and the HSUS are currently infiltating all areas of animal control. THe experts are stepping up though and the great majority of all BSL is being defeated across the country right now based upon those facts and experts. I have a lifetime of exposure to the breed. I have tons of friends with them and they have kids and their kids have friends. Not once has anyone ever been bitten. I am speaking from experience and not from zero exposure trying to find somthing on the internet to to grab and create fear. If you do your due diligence on this subject you will see I am correct if you are really interested and not just baiting.

Pitt Gorilla 02-01-2007 02:10 PM

I love Aussie Shepherds. My family had one on the farm and she was incredible as a cattle dog.

BIG_DADDY 02-01-2007 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx
I hear ya. Mine are just now starting to show signs of settling down and they just reached 4 years old. The first two years they were really crazy. One thing that really cracks the wife and I up is when ever they want something, like to be let outside or to be fed, they will try to herd one of us to the back door or where we keep the dog food. You will end up with one on your right and one on your left, then they work as a team guiding the stupid human.

Back on topic. I am also on the side that it is ignorant owners that cause the problems with what ever breed a dog may be. I have friends that raised two pits from pups to be inside lap dogs and man they are the coolest dogs. All they want is to be petted and snuggled with.

Most affectionate breed I have ever been around. I nicknamed mine velcro because he always wants to be attached to you.

BIG_DADDY 02-01-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
I love Aussie Shepherds. My family had one on the farm and she was incredible as a cattle dog.


You see these new caucasion shepherds the Russians developed and are shipping over here right now. 160 pounds. I would post a picture but the planet isn't doing so well in that department right now. here is a link.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DX

elvomito 02-01-2007 03:21 PM

bd those are some neat lookin dogs... wonder why they named him demon
http://www.vbocaucasian.com/ huge is right!
do you happen to know what people here are payin for them?

BIG_DADDY 02-01-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elvomito
bd those are some neat lookin dogs... wonder why they named him demon
http://www.vbocaucasian.com/ huge is right!
do you happen to know what people here are payin for them?

No I don't. They are supposed to be great guard dogs. They are rolling them in Russia but I haven't heard anything about the results.


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