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Originally Posted by chagrin

Just curious, do you own any R Kelly, NWA or Ice Cube CD's?

Imus shouldn't have said what he did, and we can forget about race, but it's the double standard that's at issue here, isn't it?

I think my post explained why I don't see it as a double standard. And, no, I don't own any of those.

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Originally Posted by Uncle_Ted

Yeah, Imus should have just flat out called them n*ggers ... that would have been hilarious ... :rolleyes:

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It would only be funny if Chappelle did it.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...119/COLUMNISTS

Imus' language not unusual

Published: April 13, 2007
The following column contains strong language that may be offensive to some readers.

By Michelle Malkin
McClatchy Times

Let's stipulate: I have no love for Don Imus, Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. A pox on all their race-baiting houses.

Let's also stipulate: The Rutgers women's basketball team didn't deserve to be disrespected as "nappy-headed hos." No woman deserves that. I agree with the athletes that Imus's misogynist mockery was "deplorable, despicable and unconscionable." And as I noted on Fox News "O'Reilly Factor" this week, I believe top public officials and journalists who have appeared on Imus' show should take responsibility for enabling Imus - and should disavow his longstanding invective.

But let's take a breath now and look around. Is the Sharpton & Jackson Circus truly committed to cleaning up cultural pollution that demeans women and perpetuates racial epithets? Have you seen the Billboard Hot Rap Tracks chart this week?

The No. 1 rap track is by a new sensation who goes by the name of "Mims." The "song" is "This Is Why I'm Hot." It has topped the charts for the last 15 weeks. Here's a taste of the lyrics that young men and women are cranking up in their cars:

This is why I'm hot

Catch me on the block

Every other day

Another bitch another drop

16 bars, 24 pop

44 songs, ***** gimme what you got . . .

. . . We into big spinners

See my pimping never dragged

Find me wit' different women that you *****s never had

For those who say they know me know I'm focused on ma cream
Player you come between you'd better focus on the beam

I keep it so mean the way you see me lean

And when I say I'm hot my ***** dis is what I mean

Let's move down the Billboard list, shall we? The No. 2 rap track in the nation this week is by rappers Bow Wow and R. Kelly. The "song" is called "I'm a Flirt," and it's been on the charts for 12 weeks:

Ima b pimpin

I don't be slippin

When it come down to these hos

I don't love em

We don't cuff em

Man that's just the way it goes

I pull up in the Phantom

All the ladies think handsome

Jewelry shining, I stay stuntin'

That's why these *****s can't stand em

Ima chick mag-a-net

And anything fine I'm bag-gin it

And if she got a man, I don't care

10 toes and I wanna be, cause I gotta have it

Now the moral of the story is cuff yo chick, 'cause hey,

I'm black, fresh, and I rap, plus I'm rich, and I'm a flirt.

Al Sharpton, I am sure, is ready to call a press conference with the National Organization for Women to jointly protest this garbage and the radio stations and big pimpin' music companies behind it.

Or perhaps the New Civility Squad is not convinced yet that the Billboard chart toppers I've highlighted are representative? Let's proceed to No. 3 on the Billboard rap charts this week (and on the charts for the past 13 weeks): "Go Getta" by a rapper named "Young Jeezy" with a special appearance by R. Kelly (again!). Here's the "chorus":

You know we trap all day

Play all night

Dis Is Da Life Of A Go Getta (Ey) Go Getta (Ey) Go Getta (Yea)

U In Da Club

U C A Bad Bitch

Point Her Out (Oh)

Yea U Damn Right Ima (Ey)

You Damn Right Ima Go Getta (Ey) Go Getta (Ey) Go Getta (Yea)

One dumb radio/television shock jock's insult is a drop in the ocean of barbaric filth and anti-female hatred on the radio.

Imus gets a two-week suspension and then fired. What kind of relief do we get from these rappers and their music industry enablers who have helped turn America into Tourette's Nation?

Michelle Malkin is author of "Unhinged: Exposing Liberals Gone Wild." Her e-mail address is [email protected].

I always wanted to **** Malkin's non nappy-head, straight laced, china doll ass... She is hot for an Asian...

I read Malkin's article the other day and the sentiment is right... I think everyone agrees (even Jesse Jackson).

I just thought it was amazing that it's ok to see the issue as a verbal insult against women ("No woman deserves that" and "Imus's misogynist mockery"), but not as an insult against blacks ("A pox on all their race-baiting houses.").

She's gender "baiting" exactly the same as she accuses Jackson and Sharpton of doing with race.

It's a racist and sexist comment. That she has a political agenda against racial inequity and hatred, and would (as a woman) prefer to make it about gender inequity and hatred... says a lot about how useful her POV is in this discussion.

Which is to say, her politically motivated over-simplification hurts the discussion more than it helps. Exactly like Sharpton's and Jackson's (and ultimately Imus' entire approach).

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

It would only be funny if Chappelle did it.

Chappelle does "it" to every other race...but that's "OK".

We really gave this country too much freedom. It started backfiring about 20-30 years ago, and now it is starting to get out of control.

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Originally Posted by Uncle_Ted

What "double standard"? You mean that if a black man isn't offended when another black man refers to him as a "n*gger", then that same black man shouldn't be offended when a white person calls him that?

Actually, YES. If you are offended by the term, you are offended by the term and that is understandable and to be respected......BY EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF PIGMENTATION AT BIRTH. Being of the same birth pigmentation as someone using a racial slur doesn't give them the right to use a term so "offensive" if people of other birth pigmentations can't say the same without causing offense. This concept is called APPLICATION OF A SINGLE STANDARD.

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Originally Posted by DMAC

We really gave this country too much freedom.

:eek: :spock:

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Originally Posted by jAZ

:eek: :spock:

By this I meant there are far too many people that take their freedom too far. Or perhaps I am not sure what I meant.

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Originally Posted by DMAC

By this I meant there are far too many people that take their freedom too far...

The reasonable people among us knew what you meant....

rights without regard to personal responsibility is becoming an epidemic in this country.

What the ****...

Am I agreeing with Michelle Malkin?...

What the ****...

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Originally Posted by Uncle_Ted

To equate what Imus said with rap lyrics is just so dumb on so many levels ...

Why is it so hard to understand that context is EVERYTHING when it comes to whether or not someone is "offended" by "racist" remarks? Language isn't purely objective. Why would it be? Curse words aren't. For example, the words "fuck you" are much more subjective than they are objectively offensive. There are times and places where such language is completely unacceptable (that's the objective component), but other times and places where it is not. If someone tells me to "go fuck myself" should I be angry and/or deeply offended? You can't answer that question without knowing the context. My reaction will depend entirely on the context of the encounter, my own tolerance for cuss words, and most importantly, who is saying it to me. In other words, what matters is the intent and meaning that I believe is being conveyed by the "offensive" language, not the words themselves.

Context matters.

So in proper context, I could say what I want.

Two black friends great eachother "My n'igga (note: not n'igger) Charles, how you doing?"

Me (white) meeting a black friend "My n'igga (again, n'igga, not n'igger) Charles, how you doing?"

Bet I don't get the same responce.

This is the same context. But so not acceptable, and if you think it is, you are out of your mind.

Dave Chappelle can get up on stage and make fun of any and all races. Hell I went and saw Carlos Mencia, he made so much fun of white people it was crazy (funny too though).

Put Robin Williams on stage and have him make fun of black people the same manner and intention that Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock make fun of white people. Then watch a small riot happen.

Lets put an unknown black person on stage to tell racialy charged jokes. Then lets put an unknown white person on stage and tell those same racialy charged jokes. Now, who wants to bet that the white guy gets booed off stage and possible threatened if not assaulted.

Your same context argument is weak, and lacks any thought. Stop listening to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

Imus was wrong, no doubt about it. And I'm not defending him in the slightest. But don't say that Rap music is completely differant. SnooP Dogg's Comments (Down at the Bottom of the Link)

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"It's a completely different scenario," said Snoop, barking over the phone from a hotel room in L.A. "[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [the cable network home to Imus] going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha-----as say we in the same league as him."

So according to snoop, they can call women bitches and ho's because it comes from the heart and the soul?

If you can't see the double standard, then I don't know what to tell you man. And for the record, I grew up on N.W.A, EZE and Dr. Dre and Snoop after that.

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Originally Posted by DMAC

Or perhaps I am not sure what I meant.

Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

What the ****...

Am I agreeing with Michelle Malkin?...

What the ****...

ROFL

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I just tend not to use words that may potentially upset someone.

And that's why your career as a rap artist completely tanked.