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CHIEF4EVER 04-13-2007 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger
That's easy for you to say. You don't know how hard the road to naturalization is.
So because the road to being a citizen of our (yes, yours and mine) great country is difficult, we should kowtow to those who SNEAKED in here ILLEGALLY and are sucking off of our tax dollars (which are rightfully intended for those who are legally here)? Those who take jobs from my neighbors (who are more than willing to do those low paying jobs for the second income). Please explain your definition of correctness and fairness.

Silock 04-13-2007 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass
Good for you Donger, keep up the good work. Nobody appreciates a thing more than him that had to work for it. I can tell that is true with you and your citizenship.
This thread isn't about whether they're wanted or how hard they had to work for it.

The issue is that Illegal Aliens is the absolute correct definition of undocumented workers.

I guess when someone tells me that I alienated them, I should sue them. Or get their radio show pulled from the air.

Donger 04-13-2007 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass
Hard working maybe. How can we call them honest if they are knowingly breaking the law to be here?
They honestly want to come here and contribute to our society. Is it really dishonest to break an immoral law? Anyone and everyone should be able to come to this great country, green card or no.

Donger 04-13-2007 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass
Good for you Donger, keep up the good work. Nobody appreciates a thing more than him that had to work for it. I can tell that is true with you and your citizenship.
I don't know what you're talking about here.

Silock 04-13-2007 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger
They honestly want to come here and contribute to our society. Is it really dishonest to break an immoral law? Anyone and everyone should be able to come to this great country, green card or no.
It's not an immoral law. Immoral would mean that the majority of people disagree with it.

I even agree with your position. I just disagree that Illegal Alien is somehow a derogatory term.

Donger 04-13-2007 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER
So because the road to being a citizen of our (yes, yours and mine) great country is difficult, we should kowtow to those who SNEAKED in here ILLEGALLY and are sucking off of our tax dollars (which are rightfully intended for those who are legally here)? Those who take jobs from my neighbors (who are more than willing to do those low paying jobs for the second income). Please explain your definition of correctness and fairness.
They WANT a better life. Don't you get that? They do the jobs Americans don't want to do.

That alone forgives them breaking some arcane law, IMO.

Silock 04-13-2007 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger
They do the jobs Americans don't want to do.
That's not entirely true, but there is a lot of truth to that.

KC Dan 04-13-2007 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger
They honestly want to come here and contribute to our society. Is it really dishonest to break an immoral law? Anyone and everyone should be able to come to this great country, green card or no.
Really? We are supposed to be a melting pot not the only porta-potty in the field that every one uses.

Donger 04-13-2007 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Silock
It's not an immoral law. Immoral would mean that the majority of people disagree with it.
Morality has nothing to do with the majority opinion.

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Originally Posted by Silock
I even agree with your position. I just disagree that Illegal Alien is somehow a derogatory term.
That's because you're not, right?

Donger 04-13-2007 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Silock
That's not entirely true, but there is a lot of truth to that.
Damn straight.

Donger 04-13-2007 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Dan
Really? We are supposed to be a melting pot not the only porta-potty in the field that every one uses.
I'm not sure what you mean.

Silock 04-13-2007 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger
Morality has nothing to do with the majority opinion.
Morality has EVERYTHING to do with majority opinion. That's what morals are. Morality is determined by a group. Ethics is what is personal. You might be able to argue that the law is unethical, but you can't say that it's immoral.

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That's because you're not, right?
No, I'm not. I'm also not an abridged novel, but if I were a 20 page version of Moby Dick, I wouldn't be offended by that label.

Donger 04-13-2007 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Silock
Morality has EVERYTHING to do with majority opinion. That's what morals are. Morality is determined by a group. Ethics is what is personal. You might be able to argue that the law is unethical, but you can't say that it's immoral.



No, I'm not. I'm also not an abridged novel, but if I were a 20 page version of Moby Dick, I wouldn't be offended by that label.
It's not my fault that you're a racist.

vailpass 04-13-2007 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Silock
This thread isn't about whether they're wanted or how hard they had to work for it.

The issue is that Illegal Aliens is the absolute correct definition of undocumented workers.

I guess when someone tells me that I alienated them, I should sue them. Or get their radio show pulled from the air.
Read my posts and you will see that your position on illegals is exactly the same as mine.

Silock 04-13-2007 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger
It's not my fault that you're a racist.
LOL WHAT?


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