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Calcountry 07-09-2007 02:23 PM

geesh, if Mr. Rogers caused all that, one can only imagine the article someone will post 15 years from now about all the toxicity caused by Rosie O' dumshit.

BucEyedPea 07-09-2007 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric
It would be nice if there was an ASSKICKING reality show on tv for spoiled rich disrespectful punks who get the living sh** kicked out of them.

But that would be illegal. Would be incredible ratings!

Take out the spoiled and rich and you coulda filme my family growing up.
My dad was a Sicilian tyrant.

jidar 07-09-2007 02:23 PM

this is obvious but doesn't go far enough.

We over coddle in the name of fairness. For instance I have 2 children, a 13 year old daughter and a 10 year old boy. If I let my daughter do something because shes old enough but my not son then my wife will get pissed and say it's not fair.

No it's perfectly ****ing fair because she's older. Yes it sucks for my son at that moment, and yes he's disappointed, but that's life and he needs to learn to deal with all of that.


Kids need to fail, they need to be told when they suck, they need to experience disappointment and perceived unfairness. They need to be exposed to things that prepare them for a potentialy harsh world because that might be what they end up in.
And besides, if they aren't their life will be ****ing boring and they will go through it depressed and unhappy without really knowing why.

But at the same time they need to be protected a bit and brought along slowly, so how slow is slow enough?

I propose the following litmus test: If you keep your kids from playing some video games to protect them, then you're over doing it.

bkkcoh 07-09-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
Do you put a helmet and knee pads on your kids to ride a bike?


Nope, and we had bb gun and bottle rocket fights and survived without any serious injuries.

Mr. Kotter 07-09-2007 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
Do you put a helmet and knee pads on your kids to ride a bike?

Fukk, no. I remove the chainguard, fenders, and reflectors....and send 'em out on I-29 at dusk to retrieve aluminmum cans, so I can earn some beer money from recycling. The four of 'em can usually scrounge up enough cans for a twelve pack of domestic/six pack of imports within an hour. :harumph:

:p

(FTR, Helmet, yes; knee-pads....eh, no--R U friggin' kiddin' me? :spock: LMAO )

bkkcoh 07-09-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jidar
this is obvious but doesn't go far enough.

We over coddle in the name of fairness. For instance I have 2 children, a 13 year old daughter and a 10 year old boy. If I let my daughter do something because shes old enough but my not son then my wife will get pissed and say it's not fair.

No it's perfectly ****ing fair because she's older. Yes it sucks for my son at that moment, and yes he's disappointed, but that's life and he needs to learn to deal with all of that.


Kids need to fail, they need to be told when they suck, they need to experience disappointment and perceived unfairness. They need to be exposed to things that prepare them for a potentialy harsh world because that might be what they end up in.
And besides, if they aren't their life will be ****ing boring and they will go through it depressed and unhappy without really knowing why.

But at the same time they need to be protected a bit and brought along slowly, so how slow is slow enough?

I propose the following litmus test: If you keep your kids from playing some video games to protect them, then you're over doing it.

:toast: Absolutely correct.

We have issues with our daughter because she isn't allowed to do the same things that the older brother does. She just doesn't understand that there is a difference. There is a big difference in 2 years at the age they are right now.

Kids need to fail to understand how or what they did wrong. Building up a kids self-esteem for the saving of hurt feelings is totally bogus. They are going to have to learn to respond to adverse situations. Not everything is going to go their way in life.

Bob Dole 07-09-2007 02:36 PM

Wow.

If Zaslow starts a cult, Bob Dole is going to sign up.

Simplex3 07-09-2007 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea
...she got a Presidential Academic Award...

Must...resist...joke...teed...up...too...high...

headsnap 07-09-2007 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
Do you put a helmet and knee pads on your kids to ride a bike?


Yes... :)

http://www.derbycitybmx.org/riderpho...-07-7102-A.jpg



8yo daughter in the intro in the blue, yours truly with the red cast on broken wrist, and 5yo son when the music kicks in:
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TslQFLFDk0Y"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TslQFLFDk0Y" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

racing especially at the national level builds character, and there's no crying in BMX!!! :)

Mr. Kotter 07-09-2007 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headsnap
Yes... :)

http://www.derbycitybmx.org/riderpho...-07-7102-A.jpg



8yo daughter in the intro in the blue, yours truly with the red cast on broken wrist, and 5yo son when the music kicks in:
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TslQFLFDk0Y"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TslQFLFDk0Y" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

racing especially at the national level builds character, and there's no crying in BMX!!! :)

That's awesome. :thumb:

Motocross in their futures, eh? :)

Adept Havelock 07-09-2007 04:09 PM

Blaming Mr. Rogers for this makes as much sense as blaming Buck Rogers, IMO.

Whatever scapegoat makes you happy, Mr. K.

Personally, I think it's Gabe Kaplan's fault. :harumph: :p

Direckshun 07-09-2007 04:10 PM

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

HemiEd 07-09-2007 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkkcoh
Nope, and we had bb gun and bottle rocket fights and survived without any serious injuries.

The strong will survive!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
Fukk, no. I remove the chainguard, fenders, and reflectors....and send 'em out on I-29 at dusk to retrieve aluminmum cans, so I can earn some beer money from recycling. The four of 'em can usually scrounge up enough cans for a twelve pack of domestic/six pack of imports within an hour. :harumph:

:p

(FTR, Helmet, yes; knee-pads....eh, no--R U friggin' kiddin' me? :spock: LMAO )

Helmets? Case closed.

Rain Man 07-09-2007 05:57 PM

I do my best to offset this by whispering mean things to children in grocery stores.


"Psst, I heard that your mom is going to abandon you when she gets to the frozen foods."

"Psst, I'm a gypsy. You're going to get lost in the woods and die."

"Psst, that's not your mom. That's a crazy nurse who stole you from the hospital."

I think this sort of thing really helps to ground them.

KCChiefsMan 07-09-2007 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
Here is a little thing on Mr. Rogers, RIP!

Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal,

combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five

confirmed kills to his name. He wore a

long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many

tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master

in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to

disarm or kill in a heartbeat

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained

Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist.

Vowing to never harm another human and also

dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help

lead children on the right path in life. He hid away

the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts

with his quiet wit and charm.

well thats a fun fact I didn't know, is that really true?


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