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RJ 11-14-2007 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
Rypien and Morall were big stars in their eras.



Big reach, KCJ. Morrall started for the Colts that season only because Unitas was injured. As to Rypien, I sure don't remember him as a "big star". Maybe my memory is fuzzy?

cdcox 11-14-2007 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
Rypien and Morall were big stars in their eras.

I watched both play.

Rypien went to two probowls. He was about equivalent to Matt Hasselback today. A decent QB, but not someone that I'd build a franchise around.

Morrall did start a large number of games over his 20 year career, but was genearally regarded as a journeyman. He was probably a bit better than that, since the league had fewere teams back then. But not a "big star."

RJ 11-14-2007 11:52 PM

Morrall played for 6 teams.

Mecca 11-14-2007 11:55 PM

Mark Rypien had a great year their bowl year, he was pretty average outside of that.

KCJohnny 11-14-2007 11:59 PM

1991 was arguably Rypien's best season; he threw for 3,564 yards and 28 touchdowns with 11 interceptions, leading the Redskins to Super Bowl XXVI after recording a 14-2 regular season record. He was named the MVP (Most Valuable Player) of the game, passing for 292 yards and 2 touchdowns and leading his team to a 37-24 win over the Buffalo Bills. Rypien was named to the Pro Bowl in both 1989 and 1991.

alanm 11-15-2007 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
A lot of these guys flat out STUNK in their first seasons. Aikman went 1-15!!!!
Brady, Warner and Young were just back up QBs who were thrust into the starting position because the #1 QB was injured. So Carl/Rufus is right in some regard.

John Unitas and Len Dawson were bench warmers early in their careers. Some of the greatest never made it to the big dance - Dan Fouts, Warren Moon, John Brodie, Jim Everett, Archie Manning, Jim Hart, etc...

John, You had me until you mentioned Everett. In no way, shape, or form should he be listed among the greatest. :shake:
At least Ferragamo got the Rams to a SB. Everett was kinda like Jeff George. All arm, no brains. Ferragamo on the other hand is a MD now.

Rasputin 11-15-2007 12:28 AM

IMO/Having our own home grown QB allows us to build a long term team that gives us manny years of SB attempts. Building a team around a young QB and getting better each year making the playoffs with the same QB allows us a bigger window of opportunity to get to the Super Bowl. Aikmans first year 1-15, but they put the peases together and built themself a dynasty. Peyton Manning 3-13 his first year, but they grew as a team and have had manny shots at the playoffs and finally got the SB. If the Colts disregarded Peyton after his first year and went with an old vet like the Chiefs do then they probabley wouldn't have won a Super Bowl.

We had Joe Montana for a short time, no Super Bowl. Bono sucked, Dave Kreig sucked, Gannon & Elvi Grrbitch WTF happend? Trent was our longest active QB under Carl Peterson but only had one real shot at a Super Bowl but we didn't have a defense to stop Indy 2003. Then Trent & the team got old quick and so go's the history of the KC Chiefs.

I think we are finally doing the right thing and building upon the QBOTF Brodie Croyle.

Logical 11-15-2007 01:48 AM

The flaw with the story is that most of the QBs were young when traded or picked up off waivers/free agency. Not example comparable to the Chiefs history.

ILChief 11-15-2007 06:13 AM

GOOD GOD WILL THEY STOP WITH THE RUFUS CRAP!!!!!

EMBARASSING

BigRedChief 11-15-2007 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru
It's really tough to win a Super Bowl!
It's really tough to win an AFC championship!
It's really tough to win a playoff game!
It's really tough to find good players!
It's really tough to compete in the NFL!

In other words, people, DON'T HOLD ME TO SOME RIDICULOUS STANDARD! Especially after 19 ****ing seasons!

Hey, I keep the stadium clean, I supply the uniforms. I let you in the parking lot early so you can hold cookouts and shit. What more do you ****ing want!?!

ROFL

BigRedChief 11-15-2007 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief
GOOD GOD WILL THEY STOP WITH THE RUFUS CRAP!!!!!

EMBARASSING

It is beyond embrassing. Using an annonymus writer to lash out at the media on your own website is so wrong on so many levels.:shake:


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