They traded a 1st round pick for Doug Jolley, you can twist it any way you want. it was a really bad trade and you're trying to defend it somehow, you really are a piece of work. is that you Herm?

Dumbest thread ever. I'd give you a 7th for Coles and our other 7th to keep Pennington.

I'll give you one of our extra 6ths if you never make any trade proposals again.

No. No to any trade that invites Pennington here to relive his 'glory days' with Herm.

Like I said, I have this thread bookmarked. I'll bump it when the time is right. :Pimp:

Not trying to defend it - just trying to describe it accurately. You left out facts. I said it was a bad trade. Why are you getting so worked up?

I can speak to the irrationality of most New York sports fans. They have no grasp of anything that doesn't have to do with their own team.

I'm not worked up. you are just a broken record with your recycled Herm defending diatribes. that's all, don't be so sensitive. you should have thick skin around here if you're defending Herm 24/7.

he's relentless ... very calm, but relentless.

Yep, as noted in the Tank and Turk thread, we may actually have some talent waiting to play. But the slobbering idiot won't allow them to make any mistakes. I am so glad we have Morten Anderson II on the team now to shore up this youth movement, along with Donnie Edwards and Ty Law.

This debacle is making me feel 25 years younger, like it is 1982 all over again. :banghead:

It is kinda sad you remember the whole Jet situation better than Bill does.

What's going on with the Jets?

Do you like the QB? Will Mangini make changes to the defense next year?

TIA

Thanks for throwing Brandon Jacobs out with the trash... lol Grant it, we have our own problems....

Hey Bill, we'll give you Eddie Kennison and Damon Huard for your 1st round and 5th round picks.

I like Clemens, and I like Mangini. the defensive line sucks, we need a nose tackle if we're going to play the 3-4, and we don't have one. LOL!

We also need an O-line if we're going to a power running attack (like we did this year), but our O-line sucks. Mangold is the only good lineman.

We need lineman desperately. I think they'll go after Fineca and draft a guard and a tackle.