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FringeNC 01-12-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief
we are waiting around to hire to Shula...

I can't believe we'd hire him. We need someone to suspend the disbelief that we will suck on offense with Herm as coach, and Shula is not that guy.

At least with Price, a young guy with some upside, and Gailey, a guy with a pretty good track record, there'd be a little hope. With Shula and his history? Good luck selling tickets.

Deberg_1990 01-12-2008 03:46 PM

WHat did Price do under Herm when he was with the Jets?

Whats his claim to fame? Did he help develop Pennington? Anyone know?

nychief 01-12-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
I can't believe we'd hire him. We need someone to suspend the disbelief that we will suck on offense with Herm as coach, and Shula is not that guy.

At least with Price, a young guy with some upside, and Gailey, a guy with a pretty good track record, there'd be a little hope. With Shula and his history? Good luck selling tickets.


why haven't we hired him then? It doesn't take a genius to see we are waiting till the Jags go out to interview and hire Shula Jr. as OC.

nychief 01-12-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
WHat did Price do under Herm when he was with the Jets?

Whats his claim to fame? Did he help develop Pennington? Anyone know?


Wasn't he a quality control coach or something? He was a step up from an intern.

nychief 01-12-2008 03:48 PM

from the UTEP website:
"He worked with the NFL's New York Jets in 2001 and 2002 as an offensive assistant. He played a major role in the progression of quarterback Chad Pennington, who led the NFL in passing efficiency during the 2002 season."

Frankie 01-12-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief
Wasn't he a quality control coach or something? He was a step up from an intern.

He has an impressive UTEP record I think, as OC.

KCJohnny 01-12-2008 11:18 PM

As much as he is castigated here, Jimmy Raye actually made one of the most notable adjustments in franchise history in 2000 when KC lost its RB and FB early on. The '99 Chiefs had been build on maulball/play-action, and JR was able to adapt the remaining personnel to a pass-first O that finished #5 passing that season.

I think the deal here is that Carl wanted to continue Al Saunders' success and so he pigeon-holed Herm into promoting Solari, a coach with zero play-calling experience. Now that Herm has been vindicated, he wants an OC with the flexibility to adjust the system to fit the personnel, something the truncated Coryell system we were running could never do.

In the end, if Herm has learned from his past mistakes he will be open to whatever works in 2008-09, and hire an OC accordingly.

Mecca 01-12-2008 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
I can't believe we'd hire him. We need someone to suspend the disbelief that we will suck on offense with Herm as coach, and Shula is not that guy.

At least with Price, a young guy with some upside, and Gailey, a guy with a pretty good track record, there'd be a little hope. With Shula and his history? Good luck selling tickets.

They'll promote how he knows Brodie Croyle.......it'll be nice to watch Shula and Croyle go down in flames together eh?

blueballs 01-12-2008 11:38 PM

If Trent Green for QB coach can be knocked around
Tony Richardson's 2 year contract is up in Minnesota
I smell a T-Rich for RB coach campaign at Chiefsplanet

FloridaMan88 01-12-2008 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
Now that Herm has been vindicated, he wants an OC with the flexibility to adjust the system to fit the personnel, something the truncated Coryell system we were running could never do.

Every time you post you further expose yourself as a dumbass.

The Coryell system was all about flexibility and adjusting to fit a team's personnel... and to see an example of that just look at how Vermeil/Saunders altered the system to fit the Chiefs, compared to how it was run with the Lambs.

Vermeil/Saunders took the offense that was more pass-oriented in St. Louis and utilized multiple WRs and a spread look in the passing game, to a more run-oriented offense in KC that emphasized the playaction game and featured the TE and utilized a fullback, rather than a lot of 4/5-wide looks.

The Bad Guy 01-12-2008 11:43 PM

I hope Price is the guy, but with Herm waiting, it's a no-brainer that it will be Shula. If he really wanted Price, he could have hired him last week. This is going to be miserable - again.

FloridaMan88 01-12-2008 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
They'll promote how he knows Brodie Croyle.......it'll be nice to watch Shula and Croyle go down in flames together eh?

Hiring Shula as OC only helps the 0-16 possibility next year for Herm's Chiefs so I'm all for it.

booger 01-13-2008 12:52 AM

Shula’s mind not on Chiefs’ coordinator opening
 
Shula’s mind not on Chiefs’ coordinator opening
By RANDY COVITZ
The Kansas City Star

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. | Jacksonville quarterbacks coach Mike Shula said Saturday it was too soon to give the Chiefs’ vacant offensive coordinator’s position much thought.

But Shula, considered a candidate for the job, gave a pretty good audition based on the performance of star pupil David Garrard, who threw a scare into unbeaten New England before losing 31-20 in an AFC second-round playoff game.

“Our mind has been on trying to win a championship,” Shula said after the game, “and for me to make comment now … it’s like every other year, when the season is over, you’ve got to sit back and take a few days and evaluate things.

“I love my job in Jacksonville; I hated that (the season) ended tonight.”

Shula, son of Don Shula, the NFL’s all-time leader in coaching victories, was head coach at Alabama during 2003-06 and led the Crimson Tide to a 26-23 record, including a 10-2 mark in 2005. Shula, 42, played a major role in the development of current Chiefs quarterback Brodie Croyle at Alabama.

Croyle, the Chiefs’ third-round pick in 2006, set school records for pass attempts, completions and yards, including a single-season record 2,499 yards in 2005.

Shula spent four seasons as Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator for Tony Dungy during 1996-99 when Chiefs coach Herm Edwards was the club’s assistant head coach.

The Jaguars’ offense ranked seventh in the NFL, and Garrard gave Shula a ringing endorsement.

“I know he would do a great job,” said Garrard, who completed 22 of 33 passes for 278 yards and two touchdowns against New England. “He has, of course, a coach’s mind. I’ve been telling him, he’s been coaching since he was 4 years old just because he’s been around the game for so long.

“I know he’ll be able to work (the Chiefs) offense and get their offense up and going. And if he has Brodie Croyle … I think it will be a great fit for him. I would hate to see him leave here. But I wish him the best whatever he does


http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/442662.html

BigRock 01-13-2008 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by booger
“I know he would do a great job,” said Garrard, who completed 22 of 33 passes for 278 yards and two touchdowns against New England. “He has, of course, a coach’s mind. I’ve been telling him, he’s been coaching since he was 4 years old just because he’s been around the game for so long.

“I know he’ll be able to work (the Chiefs) offense and get their offense up and going. And if he has Brodie Croyle … I think it will be a great fit for him. I would hate to see him leave here. But I wish him the best whatever he does

What the hell? The Kansas City Star's Randy Covitz talked to David Garrard about Shula possibly coming to KC? That's like... actual reporting and stuff.

Meanwhile, Teicher was prepping his next column about how he had a feeling that Herm could consider the possibility of seeing if Jimmy Raye might want to be a candidate.

booger 01-13-2008 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock
What the hell? The Kansas City Star's Randy Covitz talked to David Garrard about Shula possibly coming to KC? That's like... actual reporting and stuff.

Meanwhile, Teicher was prepping his next column about how he had a feeling that Herm could consider the possibility of seeing if Jimmy Raye might want to be a candidate.

:clap: :thumb:

Teicher is about as worthless to the Star as Carl is to the chiefs.


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