I'm open to opinions on Ryan, and I trust the opinion of Mike Mayock more than any fanboy on any internet forum. He grades him very highly, so this pick is fine in my eyes.

A couple of weeks ago, on ESPN Herm Edwards said that Brodie is going to be our starting QB. If not then he is a lier. Herm Edwards does not lie. HE telleth the truth.

I don't see Carl doing it. We know what he thinks of QBs. If football teams are cars, he thinks the QB is the gas cap. He thinks you win with Steve Deberg, Dave Kreig, a Montana who was long past his prime, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Damon Huard... hell someone will probably have to hogtie him from bringing in pennington or mcnabb. The only reason we've ever had good QB play here in my lifetime was because Vermeil convinced him to bring in Green, right?

Carl doesn't think the QB position is worth anything. This explains continued failure since it's the most important position in football and is getting even more important by the year as the rules continue to get tougher on DBs and more protective of QBs and receivers.

We know Carl thinks QBs are an afterthought because he keeps bringing in veteran castoffs who are known sucky quantites. He doesn't see QBs as being able to lead teams or win games for them. He sees them as mistakes waiting to happen - so get someone who sucks, but won't drop the ball or throw too many interceptions.

I can't see Carl spending a pick this high on a QB. I could see him trading down to the middle of the first round and trying to get Brohm, maybe. I could see him picking another QB later in the draft. But I don't think he's willing to take a big risk on a position he doesn't value all that much.

I wouldn't mind them taking Ryan if they think he can be the guy.
We need to make a serious commitment to the QB position if we're going to become a championship team in the near future.

What did he think about Alex Smith?

So some of you want a "risk" pick NOW? We have a top 5 pick for the first time in a long long time, and NOW you want the franchise to take a risk with it?

On a QB that has been highly questioned by many scouts? Including the author of the article..

Wow.... sounds like we're desperate for a Brady/Manning clone...

Why gamble on a maybe when there will be guys there that carry much much less risk?

I am going to have to revise my thinking...Brock and I agree on something.

Taking Ryan would not bother me one bit.

Yeah, who wants a Brady/Manning clone. Franchise QBs are for losers.

I'd prefer to stick with Brodie this year, see how he does in year two with at least a somewhat rebuilt line in front of him. If that doesn't work trade/draft a guy high. It's not like we'll be out of the top ten picks next year.

Just doesn't seem smart to me to spend a ton on a QB that you didn't bother to protect. Younger guys need more time find the open man and make the completion. Better have a good line and someone to throw to in front of them...

Because high risks sometimes bring huge rewards? Peyton Manning himself wasn't a lead pipe lock to be a success.

I haven't been paying close attention to the KC fan opinion of Brodie Croyle. Apparently people have pretty much universally given up on him?

I haven't "given up on" him. I just haven't seen anything from him that makes me adjust my draft strategy.

Cochise summed up my thoughts on this. This is a QB league more than ever, and a franchise guy at the position can completely change the dynamics of the team.

It would definitely be a gamble, but it's a gamble that could pay off big.

And you propose to go about that by abandoning the commitment to the current QBOTF prospect, who we still haven't fully evaluated?

Serious commitment means half a season of starts behind a crap OLine?

Exactly. Everyone wants to act like Peyton was this no-risk prospect when he came out, but in reality most people thought Leaf should have been the #1 pick.

Peyton had the stigma of a choker that folded in the clutch, since he lost to Florida every year and never took UT to the NC game.