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Herm out-scouted the entire NFL. (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=183966)

DT Fan

04-28-2008 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4722494)

It's truly amazing what they did. They out-scouted the entire NFL not just in rookies, but in what other teams wanted and were looking for (note how they beat the Eagles to Albert). They out-scouted them with small school players, they out-scouted Draft experts, they out-scouted everybody.

Merritt's the perfect example. Everybody who heard about Central Florida watched their games for Kevin Smith. But the Chiefs watched the games, and they came away with a high opinion of a blocking tight end with a massive frame that nobody else in the NFL even acknowledged existed.

Carr as a 5th rounder looks like amazing value for one of the best CBs to have played in DII over the last decade or so, and has the measurables to compete in the NFL.

This is just a great weekend for Chiefs fans. A time not to just enjoy your team but to be proud of them. Who the hell knew Herm was capable of this?

So if the Chiefs knew what everyone else wanted and they found a kid that no one else knew existed, why did they waste a 7th round pick on him instead of bringing him in as an undrafted free agent and using the pick on someone that another NFL team might compete for?

Just sayin...

the Talking Can

04-28-2008 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DT Fan (Post 4722743)

becuase a 7th is worth the guarantee of getting him...

and you're nitpicking to an absurd degree....just sayin...

DaKCMan AP

04-28-2008 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 4722706)

With the depth situation at DE, I really wonder if Johnston makes it as a situational pass-rusher.

I think Johnston makes it. Both Allen and Wilkerson are gone and I'm not sold on Boone switching to DE.

KCJohnny

04-28-2008 09:42 AM

When I spoke to Brian Billick in Baghdad in February, he spoke very respectfully of Herman Edwards and said he is one of the best coaches in the NFL and that the Chiefs had the right man for this period in their franchise history. I think Herm's going to be in KC for a decade or more.

DaKCMan AP

04-28-2008 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 4722867)

I'm one of the few who like Herm, but did you really expect Billick to badmouth anyone on a trip to Iraq?

KCJohnny

04-28-2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4722869)

I'm one of the few who like Herm, but did you really expect Billick to badmouth anyone on a trip to Iraq?

He was very candid. I mean, he's a millionare with ZERO in common with us dog faces, but he was warm and sincere. He openly praised Herm and I thought he meant it. It was not during an autograph session or a speech. We ate breakfast together in the little chow hall.

Fish	04-28-2008 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4722869)

I'm one of the few who like Herm, but did you really expect Billick to badmouth anyone on a trip to Iraq?

LMAO

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Originally Posted by Brian Billick

Well son..... you might as well tapdance on an IED tomorrow, cause Edwards is a bum and he'll never win you shit. Dumbest damn coach I've ever known. Well...... anyway, thanks for your service in our armed forces!

Chief_in_Commander

04-28-2008 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 4722718)

They may be with the team but they are not starters.

The 2006 draft produced Hali and Page and maybe Croyle if he pans out.

2007 we got Bowe and thats it.

The rest are now backups. And in the 2008 3rd round we took more backups.

2008 - picking that high we have to get some quality staarters and looks like we got 4 good ones and a couple of maybes.

From 06 i'm pretty sure that Pollard is a starter and Webb is definitley going to compete for 2nd/3rd wr spot.

DT Fan

04-28-2008 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 4722747)

becuase a 7th is worth the guarantee of getting him...

and you're nitpicking to an absurd degree....just sayin...

I was just playing because of the bad logic in the post. If they knew what everyone else was doing and knew that no one else had heard of our last pick (both of which are alleged in the post), than there was no reason to use one of the picks on him.

I think they did a great job in the draft, but the logic in the post was a bit silly.

vailpass

04-28-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4722730)

No kidding. There's still developmental and contractual issues. We won't know how this draft really worked for 3-4 years. Though, I'm pretty sure the LSU product is a safe bet, heh.

Congrats on a nice draft. I was just reading on Yahoo that a dark spot on Dorsey's leg x-ray gave some NFL doctors concern that it might be more than a stress fracture. Read somewhere else that it might be something that requires surgery down the line.
They said that was why Dorsey fell to #5.
Of course just because you read it on the intertubes doesn't necessarily mean its true.

Have you heard anything about this?

HemiEd

04-28-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4722929)

I am fairly certain that both his legs are dark.

KCJohnny

04-28-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 4722959)

I am fairly certain that both his legs are dark.

Wow, Ed, you should be a scout!

vailpass

04-28-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 4722959)

I am fairly certain that both his legs are dark.

ROFL
Guess I should have quoted the article since I don't seem to be able to typw without putting my foot in my mouth. I like the parts about Mssrs. Nagurski, Lombardi and Outland:

"So I don't know what we should believe about Glenn Dorsey's leg. Mr. X-ray machine is probably not lying about the dark spot on the X-ray, and some GMs are concerned about it, according to STLtoday.com. Dorsey says he suffered a stress fracture there in his junior year when he banged it against something in the weight room, but that he played two years with the injury, and it never bothered him.

He also suffered a sprain of the right knee last year, but again, he never missed a game, and says it's not an issue. Backing Dorsey up on this are the Nagurski (best defensive player), Lombardi (best lineman or linebacker), and Outland (best interior lineman) awards on his mantle.

Two things concern me about Dorsey. One, it's a stress fracture, and Dorsey says he suffered it while banging into something in the weight room. That's not what a stress fracture is. Stress fractures are caused by repetitive motions.

And two, there were too many times last year where Dorsey went for long stretches of a game being pretty blockable. He made as many spectacular, eye-popping plays as any defensive lineman you can mention, but there were also a lot of times when he'd disappear for a good stretch of the game."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...?urn=nfl,78102

Hoover

04-28-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 4722867)

so he's your new Gunter?

Mile High Mania

04-28-2008 10:48 AM

I'd like to hear Herm's view on fixing the economy... healthcare and border control. Maybe he should run for President.

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