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milkman 04-30-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 4725958)
I was EXTREMELY upset about the 3rd round....the first 2 picks had me throwing shit across the room. DaJuan Morgan quieted me down a bit but those first 2 picks were throways. Jamal Charles type guys are luxuries which we can't afford and the TE goes against everything that Herm preaches about the draft....He hasn't produced, has had more surgeries than touchdowns, and if he doesn't run a 4.6 he's more of a 7th round guy.

I love the Charles pick, but I have to agree with you on Cottam, that was against the philosphy that Herman ****ing Edwards preaches.

That was a head scratcher for sure, and I would have gone with Zuttah.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 4727139)
Why cut McGraw? He's a solid special teams guy, plays well when called upon, is a smart player, and a character veteran in the locker room.

Because he doesn't have 1/10th the talent that either of those two rookies do, and the point of rebuilding is to get better.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2008 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 4727001)
Assuming the 1st round tradeup was not inevitable, I would have gone:

1a. Glenn Dorsey, DT
1b. Brian Brohm, QB
2. Limas Sweed, WR
3a. Roy Scheuning, G
3b. Kory Lichtensteiger, C
3c. Anthony Collins, OT
4. Dwight Lowery, CB
5a. Andy Studebaker, LB
5b. Owen Schmitt, FB
6a. Taylor Melhaff, K
6b. Colt Brennan, QB
7a. Chris Harrington, DE
7b. Eric Young, G

That is an awful, awful draft. I love Lichtensteiger, but he's a 6th round pick at best...we're just lucky Denver took him in the 4th. You picked Brohm 40 places above where he went, Sweed can't run routes, you should never draft fullbacks or kickers...just ugh.

That's a purely need-based draft and it's why we are in the position we currently are.

Rain Man 04-30-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4727754)
That is an awful, awful draft. I love Lichtensteiger, but he's a 6th round pick at best...we're just lucky Denver took him in the 4th. You picked Brohm 40 places above where he went, Sweed can't run routes, you should never draft fullbacks or kickers...just ugh.

That's a purely need-based draft and it's why we are in the position we currently are.

I was working from the basis that I didn't have hindsight, so I picked guys where I, Rain Man GM, would've picked them.

Give them a couple of years, and you'll see my genius.


And as a clarification, I'm not panning the Chiefs draft with this. I'm just saying that I, as a visionary and brilliant GM, would've gone with these guys.

Easy 6 04-30-2008 01:04 PM

No, i dont have 1 complaint with this draft.

Its Herms best yet.

ct 04-30-2008 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 4726036)
that's where I disagree, you can never have enough talent...and Charles was clearly a better talent than any OL left at that point...

RBs get injured all time...and this guy gives a home run threat we lacked with potential to grow...

i love that more every day

Totally agree!! Nobody knows what LJ is gonna look like when we hit TC. Anybody willing to roll the dice that LJ is fine, and risk a full season of Kolby Smith as a feature workhorse is friggin nuts!!

BigMeatballDave 04-30-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joey (Post 4725833)
Early Doucet sucks.

Junior-59 catches for 772 yards and 8 touchdowns. Senior- 57 Receptions, 525 Yards, and 5 TD's. Yes, he sucks. Horrible numbers for a 2nd or 3rd receiver. :spock:

Raiderh8ter77 04-30-2008 05:23 PM

I believe that this draft was the best in KC Chiefs history. I do think some picks were crappy like the Merrit kid and Will Franklin. I say we couldve gotton Booty Flynn or Johnson in those rounds. The pick that made me mad the most was Merritt. We dont need 4 TE's. But overall Id give KC an A-

ChiefsCountry 04-30-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderh8ter77 (Post 4728496)
I believe that this draft was the best in KC Chiefs history. I do think some picks were crappy like the Merrit kid and Will Franklin. I say we couldve gotton Booty Flynn or Johnson in those rounds. The pick that made me mad the most was Merritt. We dont need 4 TE's. But overall Id give KC an A-

You were most pissed off about a 7th round TE?

milkman 04-30-2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderh8ter77 (Post 4728496)
I believe that this draft was the best in KC Chiefs history. I do think some picks were crappy like the Merrit kid and Will Franklin. I say we couldve gotton Booty Flynn or Johnson in those rounds. The pick that made me mad the most was Merritt. We dont need 4 TE's. But overall Id give KC an A-

I'd have to say that the 1961 draft that included EJ Holub, Jim Tyrer, Jerry Mays, and Fred Arbanas was a pretty good one.

Although, technically, that was while still the Dallas Texans.

All part of the core that played in two SBs.

Also included in that draft was Bob Lily, who signed with the Cowboys, and Curtis McClinton, who was pretty productive in his short time.

ChiefsCountry 04-30-2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4728559)
I'd have to say that the 1961 draft that included EJ Holub, Jim Tyrer, Jerry Mays, and Fred Arbanas was a pretty good one.

Although, technically, that was while still the Dallas Texans.

All part of the core that played in two SBs.

Also included in that draft was Bob Lily, who signed with the Cowboys, and Curtis McClinton, who was pretty productive in his short time.

Or 1963 with Buck Buchanan, Ed Budde, and Bobby Bell.

Mr. Laz 04-30-2008 09:22 PM

it's like they lost their focus or something on day 2 :shrug:

Mecca 04-30-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 4728865)
it's like they lost their focus or something on day 2 :shrug:

What do you think is a bad pick honestly?

Rain Man 04-30-2008 10:04 PM

My question to people is, "Would you really have drafted all of the exact same players?" It's not an indictment of the Chiefs to say that you would have drafted some different players. I think a fun exercise would be to have everyone pretend they were GM, draft people who were available at or after each Chiefs pick, and then we'll come back in a year and see who would've had the best draft.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2008 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 4728072)
I was working from the basis that I didn't have hindsight, so I picked guys where I, Rain Man GM, would've picked them.

Give them a couple of years, and you'll see my genius.


And as a clarification, I'm not panning the Chiefs draft with this. I'm just saying that I, as a visionary and brilliant GM, would've gone with these guys.

To me, it just looks like a purely need-based draft. You managed to fill all the main holes, and you took guys way above where they actually went. It just reminded me of something the Vermeil teams would have done.


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