My point was that there are likely some very skilled athletes who could play professional football but didn't have the opportunities. I think it's a valid point. I think it's a proven point.

But it doesn't really have anything to do with a middle-of-the-night jab at Mecca.

If you or anyone else here took 1/15s of the hits Brodie Croyle has taken in the last year, you'd be on your knees offering to suck off every single guy on the defense if they would just leave you alone in return.

As much as i hate to admit it, I am beginning to realize the truth in this. Kinda funny how he gets hurt in his first season as the starter in the very first game... But to his credit, he was getting ****ing pounded out there.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the MRI and determining how long Croyle is out.

His stats look better if Bowe's drops are counted for completions. He did pretty well but can't seem to find a reciever other than Bowe or TG or the check down to the RB. Maybe he is having a problem with field vision, him being a shorter QB behind the 6'5 Niswanger at Center.

Mostly like the rest, I am not supprised but dissapointed he is injured again.

As far as the new qb as i expect we carry a 4th now until he is healthy:

Quinn Gray would be a good option if we would just be interested in the best option to win. He is 29 but could end up being a future #2 and/or 1-2 year starter for the next QBOTF after this season in the event we give up on croyle because of injuries.

More likely i see them bringing in David Greene who they cut before camp since he would already know some of the offense and be able to be #3 by week 2.

What i would like to see is them bringing in Matt Gutierrez. Bigger than anyone of our QB's at 6'4 230# and only 24 or 25. In the event Croyle is back in a couple weeks Matt Gutierrez does have practice squad eligibility as well. I hope we bring him in for a workout.

Thigpen will have the same problems as Brodie with his Height 6'1, reading the defense and all of his recievers, not putting soft touch on screen/swing passes,etc. But should be able to handle taking a beating at 225#. And the bootleg game would be his bread and butter, he is a good runner.

Otherwise i say go with Damon the next few games to get a win or two and get past the losing streak. Then see how Brody is and goe from there.

Just some random QB thoughts.

this is one of the funniest things i've ever read

I don't disagree, but at the time, it seemed more like you were making an argument (and I'm pretty sure the thread validates it) that the CP football All Pros could have had a shot at a pro career :shrug:

If i remember correctly, thus us the last year of Mcnabb's contract and he looked prety damn good today. get him in here after the season or something untill we get a QBOTF

Mecca = Jared Lorenzen with a mullet and less talent.

I am not nearly that big lol, he's like 280.

And anyone that has played any level of football has landed on their shoulder it happens. It wasn't a huge hit, but then again Croyle got hurt in high school too.

Anyone that sees that Croyle play says "he got hurt on that?" like they are completely baffled by it.

Croyle was a great flyer in the third round, because it was obvious he had the talent. The question was, could he avoid injuries?

Um. Not feeling so good on that.

Croyle seems like he'd be a fine backup, starter I don't think so.

The Jets back in the day had Curtis Martin, an indestructible RB with a heart a bit bigger than LJ's.

Seriously, this is no one's fault, its just nature. It happens. I was 10 years old when Greg Cook was hailed as the "new breed of QB". These things happen.

You can see the Pats sent the dogs after Huard and on at least a couple plays he made them pay, but he can't hold up for 16 more weeks of that pounding either, and probably won't be as effective as Tyler and Brodie at the bootleg/sprint out packages.

Its funny, Lenny Dawson took this beating Jo Po talks about for 19 long years when there was no such thing as a personal foul for helmet-to-helmet contact and no such thing as QB slides or 5 yd rules for mugging recievers, and roughing the passer had to be so blatant that Ray Charles and Ronnie Milsap could tell that it was a cheap (Ben Davidson) shot.

Lenny was smaller than Croyle. He stood a mere 6'0" and his Topps bubble gum card said he weighed 190. That's pretty small. Another small guy named Flutie also played effectively into his 40s - and was barely 5'9".

Its just nature, it can't be controlled, its not Herm's fault or even the OL's fault. Some people have the gifts/grace/luck, and some don't.

Let's hope this isn't a trend and that BC will play QB in this city for a decade. But if not, does anyone really trust Carl Peterson to draft a franchise QB?

It may be time to go back to the default position and get a vet QB. Before you start throwing things at me, consider this:

Steve DeBerg, Joe Montana, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, and Trent Green all made the PB as Chiefs QBs. Rich Gannon would have. the only vet QB that didn't during that run was Dave Kreig who sacked 55 times in 1992 and took every snap that season.

I have news for you, players are alot bigger and faster than they were when Dawson played.

The header in this article says it all. Brodie is, was, and ALWAYS will be too fragile to build a franchise around. The Chiefs need to figure this out before they lose seasons, rather than games, because of it.

To do what? prove that he can play for more than a game or two without tearing his vagina?


I agree that he has talent, I just question whether or not that he has heart...