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Tribal Warfare 09-18-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5032972)
If you have the top tier O-line, RB is not much of a priority.

The RB would take heat off the young QB which will free WR routes.

beach tribe 09-18-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5032974)
The RB would take heat off the young QB which will free WR routes.

I hear ya, but I think a RBs success comes more from the O-line than his own abilities. I mean of course you want to have the best one you can get, but in this day, and age you can get a good RB a lot easier than you can get the other positions, which drops him on my list of priorities. Probowl lineman make probowl RBs not the other way around.

EDIT: you open a big hole, any RB can run through it. You protect the QB for 4 seconds anyone can get open.

Tribal Warfare 09-18-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5032983)
I hear ya, but I think a RBs success comes more from the O-line than his own abilities.

Of course draft availability is always an issue(BPA), but if their is a Barry Sanders type of back that is the BPA you take him.

beach tribe 09-18-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5032990)
Of course draft availability is always an issue(BPA), but if their is a Barry Sanders type of back that is the BPA you take him.

Without a doubt. I was seriously just about to say, unless the guy is a Barry Sanders type. Or an Adrian Peterson, but the chances of getting one of those guys is slim, but I agree completely.

Mecca 09-18-2008 08:28 PM

RB's are way to much of a dime a dozen to really value them over anything.

Tribal Warfare 09-18-2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5033007)
RB's are way to much of a dime a dozen to really value them over anything.

Like Barry Sanders, Bo Jackson, Gale Sayers, yeah they are a dime a dozen. Plus RBs generally develop faster than QBs too

beach tribe 09-18-2008 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5033007)
RB's are way to much of a dime a dozen to really value them over anything.

I agree except in the case of very special talents like the ones listed above.

Not to mention the fact that guys like those are almost always sure fire.

Mecca 09-18-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5033016)
Like Barry Sanders, Bo Jackson, Gale Sayers, yeah they are a dime a dozen. Plus RBs generally develop faster than QBs too

Yea I want Gale Sayers and his what 5 years?

What did Barry Sanders ever win for the Lions? Or Bo Jackson for the Raiders?

There are multiple more valuable positions, I wouldn't use a top 10 pick on a RB unless my team was close had some inexplicable bad luck the year before and it was really the only piece I didn't have....

Adrian Peterson may be great but the Vikings can't win shit right now.

beach tribe 09-18-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5033052)
Yea I want Gale Sayers and his what 5 years?

What did Barry Sanders ever win for the Lions? Or Bo Jackson for the Raiders?

There are multiple more valuable positions, I wouldn't use a top 10 pick on a RB unless my team was close had some inexplicable bad luck the year before and it was really the only piece I didn't have....

Adrian Peterson may be great but the Vikings can't win shit right now.

I've always thought that a RB taken in the top 10 should be one ofthe final pieces in the building process. Maybe year 3 or 4 in. Yes their shelf life is short, but in the NFL, if you can't build your entire team in 5 yrs, chances are you failed in building your team.

BTW Dan Marino, and many other great QBs never won a SB. I think the lines are far, and away the most important parts of any good team, and they make winners out of QBs, RBs, or what have you.

Tribal Warfare 09-18-2008 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5033091)
BTW Dan Marino, and many other great QBs never won a SB. I think the lines are far, and away the most important parts of any good team, and they make winners out of QBs, RBs, or what have you.

Correct, IMO every position on Offense/Defense are important, because on weak link and everything falls apart. Hence my hard line BPA philosophy.

Sure-Oz 09-18-2008 10:05 PM

Definetly need a strong kicker, one that can make 60+ yard fg's

Mecca 09-18-2008 10:14 PM

Difference being a top flight QB is likely to have a career that lasts more than twice as long as the RB's.

Tribal Warfare 09-18-2008 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5033281)
Difference being a top flight QB is likely to have a career that lasts more than twice as long as the RB's.

It's all about avaiablity too, If their's a dcent QB prospect who's an shaky top candidate, but if one has a badass Barry Sanders type stud in the same spot. Guess what, I'd take the badass RB.

Rain Man 09-18-2008 10:54 PM

Yeah, top-notch running backs are a dime a dozen.


Leading all-time rushers in NFL history

Emmitt Smith - 1st round pick
Walter Payton - 1st round pick
Barry Sanders - 1st round pick
Curtis Martin - 3rd round pick
Jerome Bettis - 1st round pick
Eric Dickerson - 1st round pick
Tony Dorsett - 1st round pick
Jim Brown - 1st round pick
Marshall Faulk - 1st round pick
Marcus Allen - 1st round pick
Franco Harris - 1st round pick
Thurman Thomas - 2nd round pick
John Riggins - 1st round pick
O.J. Simpson - 1st round pick
Ricky Watters - 2nd round pick
Eddie George - 1st round pick
Corey Dillon - 2nd round pick
O.J. Anderson - 1st round pick
Joe Perry - Undrafted
Earl Campbell - 1st round pick

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-18-2008 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5033374)
Yeah, top-notch running backs are a dime a dozen.


Leading all-time rushers in NFL history

Emmitt Smith - 1st round pick
Walter Payton - 1st round pick
Barry Sanders - 1st round pick
Curtis Martin - 3rd round pick
Jerome Bettis - 1st round pick
Eric Dickerson - 1st round pick
Tony Dorsett - 1st round pick
Jim Brown - 1st round pick
Marshall Faulk - 1st round pick
Marcus Allen - 1st round pick
Franco Harris - 1st round pick
Thurman Thomas - 2nd round pick
John Riggins - 1st round pick
O.J. Simpson - 1st round pick
Ricky Watters - 2nd round pick
Eddie George - 1st round pick
Corey Dillon - 2nd round pick
O.J. Anderson - 1st round pick
Joe Perry - Undrafted
Earl Campbell - 1st round pick

I'm sorry, but if I get to choose between Glenn Dorsey and Matt Forte or Darren McFadden and Kentwan Balmer, I take the first two 108 times out of 100.

It's obvious to me that Rainman just doesn't understand what the draft is all about.


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