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Mr. Arrowhead 09-24-2008 07:49 AM

I read somewhere a couple weeks ago, that Stafford has Carson Palmer type of tools, and thats something you dont see very often

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-24-2008 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5048859)
It's just a bad year for QB's.

Stafford has a better combination of pedigree and upside than any QB in the previous two draft classes.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-24-2008 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 5048884)
I read somewhere a couple weeks ago, that Stafford has Carson Palmer type of tools, and thats something you dont see very often

I don't know about that. He's got the arm strength and the build, but his mechanics aren't nearly as good as Palmer's, which were pretty much immaculate. They called him The Human Juggs Machine, and it wasn't because he liked titties. That's not to say he couldn't be Palmer, but he's not the refined product that Palmer was, who was a complete package.

oaklandhater 09-24-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5048827)
I think you're about to get yelled at, Stafford isn't very popular around here.

Yet the majority of ppl on this board cant get off of Quinn's knob.

Mecca 09-24-2008 07:54 AM

Stafford reminds me alot of Jay Cutler if you want my honest opinion.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-24-2008 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5048827)
I think you're about to get yelled at, Stafford isn't very popular around here.

I think a lot of that just stems from the fact that Bradford has a local feel to him because he's a Big 12 prospect. This fan base has always been really insular in how it regards prospects. Hell, even management was Big X, Big XII crazy in the 90's.

Chiefnj2 09-24-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5048879)
You do realize that in all likely hood Stafford is going to have a top 5 grade on him.

There is always a QB with a top 5 grade.

Mecca 09-24-2008 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5048902)
There is always a QB with a top 5 grade.

Would you like to have Matt Ryan cause I would...good chance Stafford has a higher grade on him than Ryan did.

Chiefnj2 09-24-2008 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5048908)
Would you like to have Matt Ryan cause I would...good chance Stafford has a higher grade on him than Ryan did.

How many underclassman QB's were drafted in the first round the last 8 or so years and how have they done in the NFL? ( I don't have the answer, I'm just curious).

Mecca 09-24-2008 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5048911)
How many underclassman QB's were drafted in the first round the last 8 or so years and how have they done in the NFL? ( I don't have the answer, I'm just curious).

You know that is a really good question, however I'm not sure how much it completely applies to Stafford he has been starting since he was a freshman, if he starts every game this year he'll have 35 starts after his junior year is over.

eazyb81 09-24-2008 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 5048884)
I read somewhere a couple weeks ago, that Stafford has Carson Palmer type of tools, and thats something you dont see very often

That is completely accurate, despite what some on here may lead you to believe. Myself, Mecca, and others have said Stafford has elite tools and should tear up the combine, but the only question is if he takes the big step forward in production on the field.

Personally, he reminds me a lot of Eli Manning as a junior at Ole Miss. Everyone knew he had the tools to be an All Pro QB and a #1 overall pick, but we were just waiting to see him actually follow-through on it.

Stafford is barely into his junior season and plays in a fairly conservative offense, but a couple times a game he'll make passes that no one else in the country can make. The guy is a stud, and by the end of the year he will be a no-brainer top five pick.

Mecca 09-24-2008 08:16 AM

Lets also realize that even though he has Moreno he has very pedestrian WR's the first real WR he's gotten to work with is AJ Green who is a true freshman and already their best WR.

Chiefnj2 09-24-2008 08:16 AM

The next 5 weeks Georgia has a brutal schedule. We'll see if Stafford can step up consistently.

the Talking Can 09-24-2008 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 5048825)
Stafford will be a chief!!

i hope so

Mecca 09-24-2008 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5048911)
How many underclassman QB's were drafted in the first round the last 8 or so years and how have they done in the NFL? ( I don't have the answer, I'm just curious).

OK going back here's a list of underclassmen QB's.....there aren't alot of them by the way, in no particular order. This is all of them taken in the 1st round as you see there aren't alot...

Vince Young
Ben Roethlisberger
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Bledsoe
Mike Vick
Tim Couch
JaMarcus Russell
Tommy Maddox
Rex Grossman
Todd Marinovich
Rick Mirer
Andre Ware
Heath Shuler
Ryan Leaf
Alex Smith

Obviously a mixed list.


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