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PunkinDrublic 10-14-2008 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5114072)
Over the top of what?

They are the DEFENDING SB CHAMPIONS.

A championship they won WITHOUT an elite TE.

The Giants are smart not to give up the ransom they got from the Saints on Gonzalez. You don't trade 2 draft picks on a 32 year old TE that you don't need - and that you may only be renting for the next year and a half.

Maybe not 2 draft picks but more than a 6th.

Tiger's Fan 10-14-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5113974)
I hope the deal gets done.

Wish it was as easy to trade me to a decent team, but I've tried, and other than lukewarm interest in the Bears it just doesn't work. I'm stuck with these assholes.

I seriously considered this this morning. The only thing holding me back, other than not knowing who I'd bale for, is my brand new #72 Dorsey jersey. Suicide is also an option.

DaneMcCloud 10-14-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 5114080)
Maybe not 2 draft picks but more than a 6th.

When trading for a player in the NFL, you have to keep in mind that draft picks are paramount.

Gonzalez may be worth a 2nd and a 5th to the Chiefs, but to the Giants? Maybe a fifth.

Why?

Because the Giants won the Super Bowl last year. TE isn't a premium position. Additionally, Gonzalez has maybe two years left to play (he's already stated as much).

The Giants draft in 2007 produced seven starters and role players, many of those guys contributing to their Super Bowl run and win.

So with that being the case, the 2nd and 5th round picks are MUCH more valuable to the Giants as a franchise (with probably a minimum of 4 years of service from each of those players) than getting two years (maximum) out of Tony Gonzalez.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-14-2008 10:10 AM

Can we just offload this sonofabitch, clear his cap number, and get this saga the **** over with?

MahiMike 10-14-2008 10:18 AM

:clap:
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5113828)
Not enough time left to make anything happen. Tony and LJ are stuck here, just like the rest of us.


MahiMike 10-14-2008 10:20 AM

Tony kinda messed up by waiting too long to go public w/this. There's just not enough time to get anything done. I see Tampa as most likely place since they deal the fastest.

OnTheWarpath15 10-14-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 5114210)
Tony kinda messed up by waiting too long to go public w/this. There's just not enough time to get anything done. I see Tampa as most likely place since they deal the fastest.

He asked Carl to explore trading him 3 weeks ago after the Atlanta game.

Deberg_1990 10-14-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5114185)
Can we just offload this sonofabitch, clear his cap number, and get this saga the **** over with?


It will all be over with in about 3 1/2 hours.

TG and LJ will still be Chiefs.

Trades rarely happen in Oct. in the NFL. Almost never.

Zouk 10-14-2008 10:35 AM

I wonder how hard they're really trying. They might just be going through the motions to placate Tony. The rest of this year is primarily about judging Brodie Croyle, and Tony's presence helps to give him a fighting chance.

blackhawk 10-14-2008 10:40 AM

Adam Schefter
Deal for Gonzalez in the works?
Posted: October 14th, 2008 | Adam Schefter | Tags: Kansas City Chiefs, Tony Gonzalez

Might be nothing, might be something.

But the Kansas City Chiefs have postponed their regular Tuesday news conference to 4 p.m. ET.

Now it could just be they are waiting whether to see if they can trade tight end Tony Gonzalez. Clearly, the team is fielding offers and asking in return for second- and fifth-round picks. It is the price that was paid for tight end Jeremy Shockey and defensive end Jason Taylor, and the Chiefs believe Gonzalez is worth as much as those recently traded stars.

So far, teams are balking. But in the remaining four-plus hours before the trade deadline, no one knows whether the Chiefs or potential trading partner will blink first.

If no one does, the Chiefs can do their news conference later — with Gonzalez still a member of the Chiefs.

philfree 10-14-2008 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zouk (Post 5114256)
I wonder how hard they're really trying. They might just be going through the motions to placate Tony. The rest of this year is primarily about judging Brodie Croyle, and Tony's presence helps to give him a fighting chance.

I been thinkin' this the whole time. Carl ain't gonna trade Tony for beans and that's all other teams are gonna offer. He's gone through the motions so when Tony isn't traded he can say I tried but there just wasn't enough interest.

PhilFree:arrow:

Mr. Laz 10-14-2008 10:44 AM

if they won't pay then don't trade him ...... period



gonzo can search for a trading partner again this offseason


but he has to know that we want market value in return

Deberg_1990 10-14-2008 10:46 AM

Here is CNNSi's update:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...t14/index.html

Signs of possible Giants-Chiefs trade
Sinorice Moss caught his first two career touchdowns against the Seahawks last Sunday. And Monday night, he rested. Moss, the Giants' third-year wide receiver, was inactive for the game against the Browns. Rookie Mario Manningham was dressed in Moss' place. It's the third time Moss has been a healthy scratch this year, so what's the big deal? Well, the trading deadline is Tuesday. So did the Giants have a trade worked out for Moss and did they want to make sure he didn't injure himself? Perhaps they had a trade worked out with the Chiefs for tight end Tony Gonzalez? If they did, general manager Jerry Reese wasn't talking. The Giants' interest in Gonzalez appears to be mild at best. It seems they'd be willing to take him at a bargain price (reports are they've offered a sixth-round pick while Kansas City is looking for a first-day pick) but won't make a big push for him. After all, they didn't trade one pass-catching tight end (Jeremy Shockey) only to add another one who isn't as good of a blocker. (Newark Star-Ledger)

Brock 10-14-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5114297)
After all, they didn't trade one pass-catching tight end (Jeremy Shockey) only to add another one who isn't as good of a blocker. (Newark Star-Ledger)

reeruned.

Reerun_KC 10-14-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5114185)
Can we just offload this sonofabitch, clear his cap number, and get this saga the **** over with?

Like I said in another thread, I hope TG doenst get traded and starts speaking up against Herm and his gay cronies... Tony G could be the savior of this franchise by causing enough voices and discontent in the lockerroom that Clark is forced to do something before the team just quits on the franchise...

We need TG now more than ever.. He could be a true icon in KC, the only guy strong enough to take down the satanic cult of Carl and Herm...


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