yeah; i typically listen to 980 news on the way home, but I'm home today and listening on the computer.

I hate KC sports radio. It's atrocious.

I agree.. You do not give up a star player that still has a good 3years left on this team, probably 4-5 sans injury on a great team for a ****ing 5th and a crappy player in return..

looks like TG should have been telling the other teams he is worth the 2nd.. Which if it is the Giants 2nd second is not much better then a 3rd sinch it will be in the 60's..

Not really amazing or surprising.

Tony is Carl's boy and he isn't going to let him go very easily

Just trade the sonofabitch and get it over with.

if he's Carl's "boy".. .then maybe he will understand right?

Tony goes to Carl and asks to be traded. Tony is clearly unhappy. Carl gets several offers but tells Tony "ahh, FU, I am not taking a third instead of a second".

I bet Tony is going to love that.

I read a rumor the other day anyway that he was considering retirement if he couldn't get out of his deal here.

Not picking on you, Valiant, but I've seen this so many times I have to ask a question.

Why do people think that TG has a "good 3 years left, probably 4-5 sans injury?"

There is absolutely nothing that backs up he'd even be here, much less as productive in 2011, 2012 or 2013.

However, there ARE articles and quotes that back up the fact that he thinks about retirement daily, and hasn't committed to a single snap past the 2009 season.

Is this nothing more than a case of wishful thinking that a fan favorite sticks around longer than is realistically expected?

It has nothing to do with a trade.

He said in training camp that he thinks about retirement daily, and is not committed to a single snap past the 2009 season.

He was looking forward to retirement well before he asked for a trade 3 weeks ago...

I agree with you but Carl isn't going to let him go that easy or cheaply.

Heck Carl and Trent were friends and he dragged out that trade for months.

And no QB will do well here with Dick Curl as our QB couch. :banghead:

I don't understand why Moss is in talks to be part of the deal. Did he go to UCLA or something?

That is not entirely accurate

This is from 9-24-2008

IF and COULD.

Notice anything missing?

WANT.

Obviously because he is 32 and as you get older you have to evaluate whether you want to keep coming back every year. How many times did Will Shields say he was thinking about retiring? Probably the last 5 years he was here.

Tony knows the end is getting near and he probably has 3 years left DEPENDING on what team he is playing for and how healthy he stays.

Carl doesn't have friends. He has people who are loyal to him, people he can still use to get something he wants, and people who have outlived their usefulness.

He didn't give a crap about Trent Green on a personal level. His actions proved that. He doesn't care about Tony. He will pee on anyone's shoes for a nickel because he's fucking napoleon

Triple you are preaching to the choir.

I only said that about Trent because he said they were friends. They probably aren't now though. :)