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El Pendejo 10-20-2008 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5134348)
When your a top 5 pick, your expected to have an IMMEDIATE IMPACT.

Hes been disappointing so far.

I might be wrong, but none of the players picked 5 or 6 spots after him are having too much of an immediate impact?

Dorsey was the correct pick in that spot, but man, it sure sucks knowing we didnt have the SACK to try and trade up to snag Ryan. Story of this franchise and Peterson. No balls. Always play everything safe. Always stay mediocre.

I don't know about 5 or 6 spots, but the guy picked seven slots later is having a great year to this point (Ryan Clady).

dtebbe 10-20-2008 07:50 AM

Uh-oh. Isn't Kitna available? I didn't realize he was Curl's boy..

And this, is priceless:

"Herm’s youth movement is starting to resemble the last 15 years of “Saturday Night Live.” He keeps adding expensive cast members who can’t recapture the magic of Derrick Thomas, Neil Smith, James Hasty and Dale Carter."

DT

Stryker 10-20-2008 07:50 AM

"...the Chiefs seem unsalvageable."


My sentiments exactly.

Reerun_KC 10-20-2008 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 5134215)
Ah. It has come to this.

Where are all the brave souls who cried for ripping it out by the roots? Starting from scratch? Total ground-to-roof rebuild? Now that we're in the throes of total humiliation, have you lost the stomach for what you most desired?

Herm didn't let Jared Allen go or invest heavily in LJ. Herm didn't injure Brodie. There is plenty of blame to go around, and Herm deserves a lot. But we all knew before the first preseason game that we'd be lucky to win 5 games. That wasn't what this season was about. It was a 16 game preseason try-out for the 2009-2010 Chiefs.

The team will have to acquire a QB. Not just any QB, but a can't-miss-franchise QB that will play in KC for a decade. Whitlock makes a strong argument against doing that with the current braintrust at One Arrowhead Drive. But wasn't Jason (and 99% of us) waxing confident about what a great pick Dorsey was? And I was flamed earlier in the season for daring to say Darren McFadden > Dorsey. Tsk, tsk, tsk...

There's no way Mr. Hunt keeps Carl. There's no way you fire Herm after investing so much in his vision and plan. So, regardless of deeply felt indignation, Herm will finish his contract, Carl will choose the QBotF (unless he resigns) and our best hope is that Dick Curl fades out and a real QB coach is acquired to groom _____________________ our 2009 #1 pick (unless the Brady Quinn prospects improve).

Right now, someone needs to call 911 for this pathetic _efense. Two games giving up over 300 yards rushing (and both at home) means this team has nothing, nada, nein to build around when the other team has the ball.

Good to see Dantrell Savage back!

KCJ
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There you are.. Herm has been taking a beating around here... Nice to see you stop licking his nutsack long enough to come over and defend his ineptude for awhile...

C-Mac 10-20-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5134244)
These ****tards could have drafted Neil Smith, Bruce Smith, Warren Sapp and Mean Joe Green in the same class and all four would be packing groceries a year later.

Under this staff we could have a potential pro bowler at each spot and they would still be luck to go .500.

THERE IS NO ONE ON THE CHIEFS WHO KNOWS HOW TO DEVELOP TALENT OUTSIDE THE OFFENSIVE LINE.

Actually if you remember, Neil Smith was considered a bust till Marty and his staff came in and coached him to the level he finally became.

Duck Dog 10-20-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TN_Chief (Post 5134356)
It's not just a question of them not being able to find the right QB...even if they somehow defied all expectations and did pick the right one they'd unquestionably **** it up by coaching him poorly and getting him killed behind a poor O line.


Agreed.

Deberg_1990 10-20-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by El Pendejo (Post 5134360)
I don't know about 5 or 6 spots, but the guy picked seven slots later is having a great year to this point (Ryan Clady).

True,

But except for the injuries, Albert looks pretty good so far.

As JWhit has mentioned many times, Herms fatal mistake was banking on Brittle Brodie. That was borderline insane.

Chiefnj2 10-20-2008 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac (Post 5134375)
Actually if you remember, Neil Smith was considered a bust till Marty and his staff came in and coached him to the level he finally became.

He only played one year before Marty came on board.

keg in kc 10-20-2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5134170)
I still think the Chiefs Dline is very poorly coached, and some guys aren't in the right spots..

I've watched the team for a decade now and I can count the number of Chiefs d-linemen that have shown any kind of development on one finger.

Krumrie needs to go. Today. Gunther needs to go. Today. The defense is supposed to be the strength of the team, Gun's had 5 years to work on it, and it's regressing to the point where Greg Robinson looks like a viable alternative.

Reerun_KC 10-20-2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5134391)
True,

But except for the injuries, Albert looks pretty good so far.

As JWhit has mentioned many times, Herms fatal mistake was banking on Brittle Brodie. That was borderline insane.

Well he also banked on Huard and Thigpen..

How can one want to rebuild a team when you ignore your two most important positions...

QB and LT, We have lost our Brokie permantely..

Chiefnj2 10-20-2008 08:29 AM

There is no excuse for the DL to be playing so poorly. The entire starting DL consists of first day picks.

Even before Jared Allen began to produce guys like Eric Hicks and Holliday would occassionally meet at the QB.

Deberg_1990 10-20-2008 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5134435)
Well he also banked on Huard and Thigpen..

How can one want to rebuild a team when you ignore your two most important positions...

QB and LT, We have lost our Brokie permantely..

Its these types of diasaterous decsions that cause management and coaches to lose their jobs in other cities.

This shouldnt even be a debate anymore. Clark has ZERO sack. To come out last week and insult the fans by saying Carl and Herm are doing a good job was just wrong.

shaneo69 10-20-2008 08:40 AM

Guys...you gotta look on the bright side...the stadium was still sold out, and the crowd looked like they were still having fun, even when we were losing 27-3. Frankly, you can't get a better entertainment value in KC than a Chiefs game.

Deberg_1990 10-20-2008 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69 (Post 5134489)
Guys...you gotta look on the bright side...the stadium was still sold out, and the crowd looked like they were still having fun, even when we were losing 27-3. Frankly, you can't get a better entertainment value in KC than a Chiefs game.

Thats fine. I understand that. People have a right to pay for whatever they want to in life even if its complete crap.

But Clark also should feel a greater responsibility to the fans who pay the bills. Put a much better product on the field instead of settling for mediocrity.

As Jwhit has mentioned a few times, the fans have suffered long enough through thick and thin. Its time for ownership to give a little in return.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-20-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5134435)
Well he also banked on Huard and Thigpen..

How can one want to rebuild a team when you ignore your two most important positions...

QB and LT, We have lost our Brokie permantely..

:spock: Hmm, I guess I must have dreamed them picking up a LT with thier 2nd first round pick this year.


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