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Micjones 11-16-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5224492)
You know they won't do that so you might aswell not even ask.

I'm trying my best to stay positive about this football team.
The three biggest jobs for this coaching staff the rest of the year is to keep a close eye on Thigpen's progress to determine if he's their starter next year and to evaluate Richardson and Taylor.

If I can identify that as a priority for this football team...
They have to know this is vital to having a successful off-season program.

Please Herm...
Put Richardson and Taylor on the field the rest of the way and see what these players have. If they don't have it in them... We'll know it and have to identify a RG/RT in the draft and FA.

Mecca 11-16-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5224502)
Yeah we need a safety, but worse than a pass rusher, or MLB?......please.

I was being kind of a smartass but it depends what pick we have and who the other players are.

Basileus777 11-16-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5224478)
Can we draft Taylor Mays now?

Spending a top 5 pick on a safety...brilliant.

Micjones 11-16-2008 04:05 PM

Upgrades at certain positions will have to wait.
Niswanger needs to get another year. We can't afford to add Center to our list of needs for next year. Same thing with Safety. Say what you will about Pollard and Page, but they do make plays. And you invested a pick in Morgan. I think Safety can wait too. Would be nice to add another Corner, but I would want a veteran guy in the mix. Carr and Flowers are my starters next year.

Mecca 11-16-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5224515)
Spending a top 5 pick on a safety...brilliant.

I make exceptions for very very rare players....

Basileus777 11-16-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5224524)
I make exceptions for USC players....

FYP

Spending a top 5 pick on a safety who isn't a playmaker or gamechanger is silly.

Mecca 11-16-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5224527)
FYP

Spending a top 5 pick on a safety who isn't a playmaker or gamechanger is silly.

If you really play that I favor USC players card you don't pay much attention.

And I've explained to you 52 times why Mays doesn't have 10 INT's. Do you have a thick skull?

chiefzilla1501 11-16-2008 04:12 PM

At this point, while I'd like to test players on the o-line, the #1 priority is to get Thigpen out of this season alive. The o-line needs improvement, but they're playing well enough to keep Thigpen on his feet.

I don't see any value in Richardson and i'm surprised so many keep pushing for him to start. The Chiefs have been quick to play young players. If he's not on the field, I guarantee it's because he's not very good. Says a lot when the Chiefs are willing to switch our emergency backup LT to RT because they don't trust Richardson.

The good news is, we've cut down our priority list significantly. We went into the season with 13 immediate needs, and I think we'll end up the season with about 5 (only 3 of them being desperate needs--MLB, RDE, and at least one very good right-side o-lineman). The rest of our needs are secondary--we could use upgrades in those areas, but it's not going to break our football team if we don't.

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5224507)
I'm trying my best to stay positive about this football team.
The three biggest jobs for this coaching staff the rest of the year is to keep a close eye on Thigpen's progress to determine if he's their starter next year and to evaluate Richardson and Taylor.

If I can identify that as a priority for this football team...
They have to know this is vital to having a successful off-season program.

Please Herm...
Put Richardson and Taylor on the field the rest of the way and see what these players have. If they don't have it in them... We'll know it and have to identify a RG/RT in the draft and FA.


Basileus777 11-16-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5224538)
If you really play that I favor USC players card you don't pay much attention.

And I've explained to you 52 times why Mays doesn't have 10 INT's. Do you have a thick skull?

I know what you said. But you can only justify taking very very rare safety prospects that high, players like Sean Taylor who have the physcial potential but also the ability to have game changing impact on the game. Taylor Mays is big and fast, but he's not worth a top 10 pick.

OnTheWarpath15 11-16-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5224546)
I don't see any value in Richardson and i'm surprised so many keep pushing for him to start. The Chiefs have been quick to play young players. If he's not on the field, I guarantee it's because he's not very good. Says a lot when the Chiefs are willing to switch our emergency backup LT to RT because they don't trust Richardson.

Considering who coaches this team, that might be the single dumbest thing ever said on this forum.

chiefzilla1501 11-16-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5224519)
Upgrades at certain positions will have to wait.
Niswanger needs to get another year. We can't afford to add Center to our list of needs for next year. Same thing with Safety. Say what you will about Pollard and Page, but they do make plays. And you invested a pick in Morgan. I think Safety can wait too. Would be nice to add another Corner, but I would want a veteran guy in the mix. Carr and Flowers are my starters next year.

I don't think safety is nearly as much of a priority.

As I've always said, safeties are the players hurt the most when your front 7 doesn't do their job. When you don't have a pass rush, your safeties have to guard a lot more field. When you don't fill in your gaps, then safeties (who are supposed to be the last line of defense) end up becoming the first line of defense.

I agree. Safety is a secondary need. I think that our safeties would improve markedly if our front 7 did their job.

Mecca 11-16-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5224550)
I know what you said. But you can only justify taking very very rare safety prospects that high, players like Sean Taylor who have the physcial potential but also the ability to have game changing impact on the game. Taylor Mays is big and fast, but he's not worth a top 10 pick.

Sean Taylor also had a hard time adapting because he was a reerun that knew nothing of scheme discipline and just freelanced...

Every single SC player gets this knock "oh why do his stats suck" because it's the best god damn defense in college football and they all play their assignments and have discipline.

Hell the USC defense might be better than the Chiefs defense is.

pr_capone 11-16-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5224519)
Upgrades at certain positions will have to wait.
Niswanger needs to get another year. We can't afford to add Center to our list of needs for next year. Same thing with Safety. Say what you will about Pollard and Page, but they do make plays. And you invested a pick in Morgan. I think Safety can wait too. Would be nice to add another Corner, but I would want a veteran guy in the mix. Carr and Flowers are my starters next year.

I have to disagree.

If we are gonna be a team that wants to close out close games and can actually convert at 3rd & 1. I want the ability to run up the middle to get the 1st and run out the clock at the end of the game.

Niswanger simply does not provide any sort of consistent push in run blocking and does not inspire any confidence in pass blocking.

Mecca 11-16-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5224555)
I don't think safety is nearly as much of a priority.

As I've always said, safeties are the players hurt the most when your front 7 doesn't do their job. When you don't have a pass rush, your safeties have to guard a lot more field. When you don't fill in your gaps, then safeties (who are supposed to be the last line of defense) end up becoming the first line of defense.

I agree. Safety is a secondary need. I think that our safeties would improve markedly if our front 7 did their job.

In a cover 2 scheme...your safeties have immense pressure on them...especially in todays game with pass catching TE's everywhere and teams constantly in 3 wide.

Rausch 11-16-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5224478)
Can we draft Taylor Mays now?

NEIN!:cuss:

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