Im starting to get a little concerned that so many grown dudes in here are breaking down Twilight......

Somebody asked what was up with it, the traffic on here is mostly grown dudes, who would you expect to be on this thread and what would they be discussing?

What UP said.

And also the complete lack of eroticism, which is troubling in a piece of vampire fiction. Everything about the vampire mythos is inherently erotic and even drangerously erotic: the penetration, the draining and exchanging of bodily fluids, the monstrous "Other" presenting an irresistible sexual threat to our women -- even transforming them into the threatening Other.

Twilight, well, lacks that erotic element. It is like the episode of Heroes that will air tonight where the characters lose their superpowers. Without the powers, why should the audience care? Likewise, what good is vampire fiction without the eroticism?

damn reaper settle down. I will rent you some vampire porn

looks like a maybe $1 rental

I hope its this vampire porn: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=196682

Jesus, that's hot.

**** you, Stephenie Meyer, and your reerunedly-spelled name.

what

Hell yeah.

Man I was worried that this somehow will decrease my chances having sex with girls that are in the 18-21 bracket, the I remembered if you tell chicks they can't shouldn't do something they will do it. TIME FOR AN ANTI BLOWJOB MOVIE!

Not only that, but it encourages a fascination by girls with the dangerous/dark boys. Edward is, literally, within seconds of ripping Bella's throat out at any given moment due to some weird blood-type fatal attraction that makes her particular blood like heroin for a junkie. So, they're constantly dancing this very dangerous dance where she could die at any moment, but she just can't stay away from him because he's oh so dreamy.

On top of that, Edward is constantly in control of the relationship. He can kiss her. She, though, can't kiss him. I've read the first book (it's part of my job to read this crap, sorry), and I didn't really get much of an abstinence message from it. I did, however, get very disturbing notions about gender roles and sexual power relationships from it. On top of that, the writing is atrocious.

That being said, it turned a lot of kids on to reading.

I've read the first book. The abstinence message, imo, is from people taking the fact that Meyer is Mormon and drawing conclusions from that. It's overhyped and an attack that's really just based on assumptions about Meyer's faith, not from the reality of the text itself. I read the first book and later found out that the author was Mormon. I actually thought it was bizarre and intriguing that she was, because the book seemed so un-Mormon and erotically charged.

You really thought the book lacked eroticism?

My little sister loved that movie. She said they have a group called twihards and twerds.

It doesn't lack eroticism, it just lacks grown-up eroticism. And it doesn't have the homo-eroticism that is common in the genre.

NewPhin sounds like he's actually familiar with the story unlike some of you. I didn't read the book, but everything he said rings true based on the movie I saw.