Dorsey
Albert
Flowers
Carr
Cox
Leggett
Charles
Cottam


Yep, all those guys just suck and have no future, right?

kuharic(sp)?? did he have ANYTHING to do with it?

I think he's had a lot of say in the draft all 3 years. Hali seems to have been his guy, for example. Regarding the first four players you've listed, Flowers is the only player I'd bet on at this point.

I wasn't a fan of Grandpa, but he had the offense up and rolling in the same period of time, and he didn't inherit a powerhouse.

I'm of the mind that HE has started the rebuild and the new GM might give him a shot to see it through next year at least. The 50/50 quote might not be too far off. I can see Gun losing his job and Chan staying since the O has shown some improvement. The ST coordinator needs to be ran out of town first.

Nick is a poor man's Bob Gretz. I have been in the PR office when Nick comes through and he sucks up to everyone and will write whatever the Chiefs PR department tells him to.

At least Gretz was a reporter and later columnist with a major market daily newspaper.

You can pick and choose the guys you want to use to prop up Herm and one could pick and choose the guys that havent panneded out.. Not including the FA signings that have worked out so well in the LB corps...

2006
Hali
Pollard
Croyle
Maxey

2007
mcbride
tyler
K smith
medlock

2008
Morgan
franklin
richardson

This isn't much of a debate, IMO. If a new GM is hired and Herm is still the coach, this situation will officially be fubar. And I'm not saying this as a knock on Edwards.

New GM must have the right to get his guy.

Kind of hard to slam him on that list ain't it?

My only problem with Herm is the lack of the Marty-style toughness.

Herm seems to want to run a Marty type team with a DV mentality.

Marty never cried after a game. That we know of anyway.

Any other way and the GM starts off as a lame duck and cant be taken seriously...

I can't see how any of our defensive coaches are even going to be considered?

Hali=Fine if you play him at his position
Pollard= meh
McBride=jury still out
Tyler=potential but waning
Franklin? As in the WR Franklin? = Just ****ing fine with me.

Considered to be retained? Herm says that if he's back, they're back, too.

Beyond this, this tables the development of a QB for another year. And before we go down this road, everyone is going to have to accept that the pistol probably isn't the long-term answer.

Wow, you really don't get it, do you?

Yeah, let's bust Herm for a couple of 5th and 6th round picks like Medlock, Richardson and Maxey.

JFC.

And to state that Hali has been a bust, along with Tyler and McBride (and Kolby Smith - WTF?) is INSANE.

To even MENTION Morgan, when he's been injured this year and Richardson, who's a sixth round rookie says to me that either you don't understand the draft or you don't understand the NFL.

Wow.

Yeah, I agree. That was the most dominating 3 for 24 performance that I've ever seen.