Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5325601)

ROFL...

No one is going to give up over 2000 points of draft value for Matt ****ing Cassell. No one.

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5325599)

I think Cassell will not make us much on the open market as he and his agent believe he will. I really don't believe the Lions are going to pursue Cassell, unless he becomes an outright FA-they have too many holes to fill, to give up draft picks for players with ONE YEAR on their resume and wasn't even a starter in college. I think Cassell is average at best and certainly not worth giving up first day picks for.

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5325599)

I think Cassell will not make us much on the open market as he and his agent believe he will. I really don't believe the Lions are going to pursue Cassell, unless he becomes an outright FA-they have too many holes to fill, to give up draft picks for players with ONE YEAR on their resume and wasn't even a starter in college. I think Cassell is average at best and certainly not worth giving up first day picks for.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5325597)

Your mother should have swallowed you when she had the chance.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5325605)

Scott Mitchell springs to mind, as does Matt Schaub. At least he has proven he's not a corpse under center.

With that said, Schaub only brought two seconds and a swap from 8-10. For Cassell to justify going from 1 to 25 and another third, you are talking about 2400 points in value, which would be equivalent to trading 5 early-mid 2nd round draft picks for him.

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5325631)

I didn't mean from 1 to 25. I meant swapping their other 1st round pick (#22) (from Dallas). That plus their 3rd round pick would be worth around 300-400 points.

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5325670)

They can get an elite QB in the draft and keep their picks. Use FA for other holes. The top pick should be an elite prospect, giving that away for Cassell and a lower first rounder sounds like they would be shooting themselves in the foot-sorry to rain on your parade. Just my measley two cents.

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5325684)

Did you just read any ****ing thing I said? I didn't say giving away the #1 pick overall. It would be them moving from #22 to #25. So instead of drafting Stafford with their 1st pick....they could get Cassell by swapping their later 1st round pick, grab an OT with the #1 pick. Then grab another player with the #25 pick.

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5325684)

Did you just read any ****ing thing I said? I didn't say giving away the #1 pick overall. It would be them moving from #22 to #25. So instead of drafting Stafford with their 1st pick....they could get Cassell by swapping their later 1st round pick, grab an OT with the #1 pick. Then grab another player with the #25 pick.

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5325704)

Yea, I missed that part and I tried to be civil, as well. Since we're getting down to brass tacks, I don't get your fixation with Boy Wonder, Cassell, so I haven't really been reading your every word with baited breath-sorry. You first started off with getting Cassell in FA and then changed it to a trade scenario-when you change horses in mid-stream, it's kind of hard to keep up.