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What Clark has created by NOT firing Herm immediately... (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=199392)

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 5339757)

It's not a new stadium, they're just renovating the old one. I think it's supposed to be done in 2010.

Ok... but they still need fans to fill it.

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 5339765)

Ok... but they still need fans to fill it.

Indeed.

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5339743)

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All of your reasons are BS.

If you give any coach that many draft picks, he's going to pluck a lot of young talent.

Why didn't Herm turn it over to Chan from day 1? Good coaches realize how inept they are in one area and allow other people to coach the area they are weak in- like Cameron in Baltimore and Mularkey in Atlanta.

Any coach was coming in here and seeing the age of the roster. You think this makes him a good coach? It means he's not blind. Anyone can start a youth movement. Getting 2 wins out of that youth movement shows me how awful he is. Rod Marinelli won 0 games with a young team, and he took FULL responsibility for the failure. Herm Edwards wins 2 games and he says the entire staff is back and he grades himself a C.

This "motiviated" team was still 2-14. When you have a ton of young players, they are going to play hard every week regardless of who the coach is because they are always playing for that second contract. I don't attribute this to Herm at all.

Herm's shoddy record helped get rid of Carl. I guess I can thank him for sucking so bad that Carl had to go.

Herm Edwards is a glorified defensive backs coach. He's not a good head coach by any stretch of the imagination no matter how much you have to stretch to find reasons.

Good coaches find ways to win more than 2 games out of 25.

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5339750)

can we just stop with the name calling and how I must be stupid because I too believe Herm has done a good job, with what he had, what he's finally getting accomplished?

I view it from a more internal success, I see the games and see the improvements being made. I see that it's not just about the win loss record for saying what I say.

What improvements? What is he getting accomplished? You people talk like he's Mike Smith. What exactly do we have with this team? We have no defensive ends, 1 linebacker, no right side of the line, average safeties, a one-dimensional QB, a disgruntled RB, a questionable second receiver.

It's mind-blowing to me the standards some of you have.

The NFL is all about wins and loses. You want to tell me he's lost x amount of games by 7 or less points? I say that's a sign of bad coaching. Bad teams find ways to lose.

I'm sorry, if you think he's making improvements and he's good, then you have drank way, way too much of the kool-aid for far too long.

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The state of limbo has Edwards in an uncomfortable position.

Of course he's uncomfortable. That's to be expected. But if he's a professional, he'll continue to work and move forward. Herm will have no problem getting a job nor will he have a problem collecting 3mil$ while waiting around.

Herm's been rebuilding the defense in his own image for 3 years.

The defense this year made Greg Robinson's D's look good. 28th in passing yards, 30th in rushing ypc, 30th in rushing yards, an NFL record low of sacks, and I believe a team high in points given up with 440.

Three years with a full compliment of draft picks each year is more than enough time to build a defense. Herm has failed in KC.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5339768)

Oh, ok - you convienced me.
Hey you asked for reasons why I think what I think, you got an answer. If you don't like it, oh well. I guess I just see the team/games/players/coaches differently than you do. Can we all drop this stupid arguement now? It's like a twighlight episode, lost in time, stuck in space, saying the same things over and over and over and over.....

Oh and if Herm goes (again with this disclaimer too, before I get fireballed) I am not going to be butt hurt.

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5339473)

He would have just given some vague bullshit answer or acted all arrogant about not wanting to let other teams' know their draft strategies.

But he is completely delusional for thinking this team is that close.

Of course he wants all the wonderdummies back on the coaching staff.

Whee!!

ROFL

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5339482)

I agree, and the guys on 810 were basically saying the same thing in a round about way, trying not to make Petro look bad.

That guy is such a ****ing douche; Carl get's shit-canned and all of a sudden wouldn't 'ya know it: Petro grows a quasi-set.

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 5339485)

That has to be hard.

See Above.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5339633)

Anyone who thinks Herm Edwards is a good coach is ****ing dillusional.

I just don't understand how you can say a guy is a good HC when he has won just 2 games out of his last 25. He has a 15-33 record here. The defense he was fixing is at the bottom of the league.

I just don't know where the label of "good" is coming from.

Have our standards been neutered so bad that a coach that isn't good in any area is considered good? I'm just massively confused at the thought process.

Court Adjourned.

Herm is gone let him twist in the wind
letting Carl go a year early and keeping Herm doesn't make sense

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Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5339912)

Herm is gone let him twist in the wind
letting Carl go a year early and keeping Herm doesn't make sense

Keeping Dictator Carl after last season just because he "works well with Herm" even though the two apparently clashed over how to rebuild the franchise didn't make sense either yet Clark did it anyway.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5339280)

5-7 players total? That's gonna make the jump from 2-14 to 10-6? He's clueless.

Well...yes and no. He's clueless if he thinks that's all it takes for HIM and HIS staff to make a run. However, I think another coach and staff could be less than 5 players away from a serious run.

Herm would need the 90's Cowboys to make a run at this point...similar to what Barry Switzer walked into...but like Switzer, Herm would eventually screw it up.

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5339927)

Think of it as a service to the other NFL teams
Herm is kept from getting another job unless
there is a death or firing in Detriot or St Louis

as long as he is actively searching for a new GM who gives a shit whether Herm is hanging around the locker room or not?

They usually fire everyone as a courtesy so they can start looking for jobs.