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Tribal Warfare 01-02-2009 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5348711)
No, Tony knows he has 2 or 3 more years at the most and Thiggy's pass-first offense pads his stats.

He has no hope for a SB in KC and no hope of getting out.

So what do you think motivates him?...
I believe that was pretty much implied

DeezNutz 01-02-2009 12:29 AM
Hey Tony, you're a great player and a lot of fun to watch.

Now shut the **** up and call Oprah and see if there's anything she wants you to do.

The Bad Guy 01-02-2009 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5348724)
As much as it pains me to say it, I'm beginning to think that Tony is part of the problem, not the solution.

You don't need a great tight end on a championship team. It's a crutch for teams that are weak in other, more important areas.
How many great TEs are in the playoffs right now?

The top 4 teams in the NFL don't have a TE worth much. Scaife is probably the best one out of the group.

Gates is the best TE in the playoffs on an 8-8 team.
Anthony Fasano, Todd Heap, Vishante Schiancoe are the best of the rest.

You can easily win without a TE.

I love Tony, but if he wants to be the GM, he should hang up his pads and get in line.

Rausch 01-02-2009 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5348728)
He stayed with the Chiefs for 2 reasons:

1) They paid him handsomely
2) He was ALWAYS the focal point of the passing game.
:clap:

Don't get me wrong, I love Gonzo, but right now the one thing that makes him different than Rickey Watters is that he knows when to S.T.F.U. and play...

chief52 01-02-2009 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5348733)
How many great TEs are in the playoffs right now?

The top 4 teams in the NFL don't have a TE worth much. Scaife is probably the best one out of the group.

Gates is the best TE in the playoffs on an 8-8 team.
Anthony Fasano, Todd Heap, Vishante Schiancoe are the best of the rest.

You can easily win without a TE.

I love Tony, but if he wants to be the GM, he should hang up his pads and get in line.
The Chiefs do not exactly use Tony like a "normal" tight end.

The Bad Guy 01-02-2009 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 5348736)
The Chiefs do not exactly use Tony like a "normal" tight end.
They use him like a pass catching TE. You don't need one of those to dominate in the NFL like you did in the early 90s when the 49ers had Brent Jones, and the Cowboys had Novechek.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2009 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 5348736)
The Chiefs do not exactly use Tony like a "normal" tight end.
He still isn't used like a true wide receiver if that's what you're trying to say.

His longest catch this year was only 35 yards.

It's also probably not a coincidence that Tony's best years have come when the Chiefs were at their worst.

Ebolapox 01-02-2009 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 5348736)
The Chiefs do not exactly use Tony like a "normal" tight end.
whale's vagina doesn't use gates like a "normal" tight end.

DeezNutz 01-02-2009 12:36 AM
If Tony had been traded midseason, it would have been interesting to have seen the effect on Thigpen. My guess is that his play would have been much more similar to what it looked like in the Atl. game.

This would have killed all the bullshit uber-Thigpen love on the board.

Yet another reason Carl (still) needs to be kicked in the man sack.

chief52 01-02-2009 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 5348736)
The Chiefs do not exactly use Tony like a "normal" tight end.
The above is exactly what I was trying to say.

Rausch 01-02-2009 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5348729)
"I have nothing new to add, and Clark isn't telling me shit, so I'll rehash the same old bullshit." /CP FOR NEXT 2 WEEKS/
FYP...

Ebolapox 01-02-2009 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 5348744)
The above is exactly what I was trying to say.
:spock:

you mean, like you typed it? wow. I thought you meant that we use him as a 'normal' tight end.

DeezNutz 01-02-2009 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5348740)
They use him like a pass catching TE. You don't need one of those to dominate in the NFL like you did in the early 90s when the 49ers had Brent Jones, and the Cowboys had Novechek.
True, but this assumes the team has above average receivers, which the Chiefs have not had and still do not have.

DeezNutz 01-02-2009 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5348745)
FYP...
Indeed.

Rausch 01-02-2009 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5348740)
They use him like a pass catching TE. You don't need one of those to dominate in the NFL like you did in the early 90s when the 49ers had Brent Jones, and the Cowboys had Novechek.
I'd argue that.

Of course I'd also argue that making said spot your primary playmaker on offense is a $#it idea.

I'd argue for QB/WR/TE/HB in that order...


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