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Bradford Doolittle: Chiefs shouldn't discount Thigpen (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=201098)

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5426035)

He uses a lot of pretty complicated metrics in an attempt to avoid what appears to be the most relevant conclusion in this article.

The kid's not accurate enough to start in the league. That's the single most important aspect of an NFL QB, he doesn't have it and is extremely unlikely to get it.

The rest of the article is noise.

Your post got me to looking at career QB completion% (Accuracy). Looks like the standard is about 62.5% give or take .5% for a really good QB. Breese, McNabb, Rothlisberger (sp?), Rivers, and Brady are all about 62%. Payton manning is 64.4% for his career and was only 56.7% his rookie year.

Anyway Thigpen was 54.8% this year. I am not a Thigpen lover nor am I a hater. If he earns a job he earns it, if not he doesn't. We should still draft a QB. I enjoyed his play about 50% of the time this year, 1st half mostly.

My thought is that the difference between 54% and 64% is completing 10 more attempts every 100 or about 3 every game he throws 33 times. Is it really inconceivable that he can't improve that much?

Let Thiggy compete with FA/Draft pick, who ever Pioli and new HC decide. 1 shot wonder who knows.

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Originally Posted by Cheeze529 (Post 5426255)

Tyler Thigpen has great athletic ability, a strong arm, 24 years old, bad mechanics granted. His mechanics can be fixed with given time, and has three full seasons with KC under his belt while still very young. He may not pan out, but he is worth the risk because of his 'boom' potential. Steve Young, who is somewhat similar to Thigpen athletically, had a horrific first year starting with the Bucs (8 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, 2200 yards) when he was 25 years old, and his career turned out fine. Granted Young had a better pedigree than Thigpen, but the potential is there, I would let Thigpen have an off-season where he is the starter the whole way through, and see what develops, this off-season draft another need and build the team, if Thigpen does not pan out, then you'll have a high draft pick (Bradford, McCoy...) and have a better team for them to thrive in, and hopefully if/when Thigpen pans out then you'll have your quarterback.

My initial reaction to this post was the same as BigChiefDave's.

But I stepped away for a mimute, and I will try to take a reasonable approach.

Thigpen has some things to work with, but his mechanics, as has been pointed out, are flawed.

Why do you think that he has those mechanical issues?

A big reason is that he came out of a spread offense.
Spread QBs have got to learn entirely nerw mechanics if they hope to succeed on the NFL level.

Sanchez and Stafford are both QBs that played in pro sets, so they would be ready, from a mechanical standpoint, to come in and compete immediately.

Bradford and McCoy play in spreads.

Even if they didn't have other questions, they would be projects that have to learn all new mechanics.

Sanchez and Stafford could potentially be ready by 2010.

Bradford and McCoy won't be ready until about 2012.

So, yeah, let's wait for next year to draft a QB.

Yeah. I would say that if he had spurred us to even a 8-8 season, he might be considered as a starting lock. I think he showed some talent, but I also think that he's got to compete. He will definitely get more snaps.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 5426366)

54% is horrendously bad when you factor in the offense that was being run for him is predicated on easy completions...

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Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5426311)

Which one got the hotter wife
Tyler's dating models yet

Boy, is he. Literally!

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I'm afraid that the Thigpen era has come and gone. The draft, trade, and waiver pick-up will yield at least two other QBs, probably with more talent than Thigpen has. He'll wind up being lucky to be the 3rd stringer.

Can you imagine Huard coming back for another season? He ought to be considered at the QB coach position.

The Pistol will not be the offense to which Pioli will subscribe.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5426035)

This. I like Thigpen's moxy but his accuracy is not NFL caliber. His mechanics are not the best. I especially dislike his penchant for throwing off his back foot. I would love to have Thigpen become the QOTF and contribute to many playoff victories.... but I just don't see that potential based on what we saw this past season.

I think at best Thigpen holds down the job until a QB we draft this year is ready. I just don't like the odds of QBs that have been thrown in there from game one of their rookie season. This is especially more important if we are not able to get our offensive line where it needs to be.

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Originally Posted by Extra Point (Post 5426556)

Can you imagine Huard coming back for another season? He ought to be considered at the QB coach position.

The Pistol will not be the offense to which Pioli will subscribe.

What is Huard going to teach? How to quit and fold like a cheap lawn chair?

Please, Huard needs to GTFO and fast!

I don't want to discount him.

Which team would pay full retail, and what would he bring at that level?

If it is a 3rd or below, I think we should keep him as a back up. If he could bring a 2nd or higher, I think he's trade bait.

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5426810)

I'd be surprised if you could get more than a 5th for Thigpen. Not to bash him, but not many teams are going to reinvent their offense for a kid with his talent level.

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5426794)

What is Huard going to teach? How to quit and fold like a cheap lawn chair?

Please, Huard needs to GTFO and fast!

You're full of it. The piss-poor playcalling over the last four years, as a result of the the holes in our O-line, and inability to coach up the O-line, haven't clouded your vision, just made you blind.

How do you go through life with a name like Doolittle?

I started to discount Thigpen when he routinely over threw the basic out patterns.